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kleinbl00  ·  2878 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Noam Chomsky called this political moment 6 years ago

My position is evolving every day at this point. And believe it or not, I'm not trying to "win" I'm trying to dissuade some of the blinkered terror that comes up whenever a learned scholar invokes Hitler, because invoking Hitler does not improve discourse.

Hate and xenophobia, sure. But what kind of hate? Xenophobia why? And "main" is a tough allegation to make because most Trump voters don't know any Muslims, let alone Syrian refugees.

I worry that there's a tendency on the Left to say "they hate our Freedoms" and move on as if they've somehow parsed the main argument and don't have to think about it anymore. I mean, I have a high suspicion that I wouldn't like to see the voting results of Lawrenceburg, KY, yet I enjoy Wild Turkey rather a lot. There has to be a reason normal humans would vote Trump because I can't accept that half the country is rabid psychopaths.

I said it earlier today and I'll say it again: a disinterested executive isn't the end of the world for the executive branch. Bush II was disinterested. Reagan was demonstrably senile for the last two-three years. But Trump has never existed in the structure he's about to exist in and while I have no doubts that the machinery surrounding him has every intent to Make America Gasp Again, they're going to have to do it at the behest of a man who takes selfies with taco salads.

I dunno. Everybody on the Left is seeing Triumph of the Will. I think it'll be a little too Weekend at Bernie's to get that grim that quick.





camarillobrillo  ·  2878 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I haven't read a Cracked in forever, thanks.

I wasn't being snarky, I really do appreciate your grasp on this shit. Just experiencing some serious fucking disillusionment with everything right now. Life will, hopefully, go on.

kleinbl00  ·  2878 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I know. I'm aware. And obviously I enjoy the discussion.

My disillusionment is tempered by the observation that the whole of the chattering class is flat-footed and floundering and that the only honest ones are writing variations of "what the fuck just happened". The ones that are claiming bullshit like "noam chomsky called this political moment 6 years ago" are the ones that are looking for a safe place to stop thinking.

There are a lot of fundamental tenets of neoliberal thought and policy that aren't questioned because fuck you, that's why. For 30 years it's only been the howling moonbats that talk about the "creature from Jeckyll Island". And first Strauss and Howe, and then Ha-Joon Chang, and then Piketty raise real questions about economics and its effects but nobody listens and now?

Well, now everyone is floundering around for answers and I hope some alternative theories get some real investigation.

Sometimes we need some real fuckin' hubris before we can move on. I guess, in a way, Trump=Hitler is a part of that.