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BrainBurner  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Hubski, how do you feel about drugs?

I avoid them, because I'm afraid of what they'll do to my mental state. I've worked hard to improve on my anxiety, depression, and overthinking. I'm finally in a good place, and I don't want to mess with that. Pot already makes me very anxious and paranoid, and I can't control myself with alcohol, so god knows what else may happen with other drugs.





user-inactivated  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Fuck yeah. Control is nice. I'm not a fan of losing it.

Drugs have really altered some of my friends mental states for the worse. We're not even really friends any more at this point, it's gotten that bad.

Never drugged it up, nor drank. I take a vitamin and an allergy pill and my inhaler and that's it in the drug department. No problems with people that do. Though, a side effect of smoking weed in Boulder seems to be never shutting the fuck up about weed.

mknod  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Fuck yeah. Control is nice. I'm not a fan of losing it.

[ It occurs to me that this might seem that I am advocating drug use, I really am not, people is people and some do drugs and some don't as long as you're not a jerk, you're okay in my book ]

This is interesting to me because I am not always a fan of being always being in control. I have this outlook that part of being alive is accepting that our environment is part of us, we can not control it any more than we can change the fundamental properties of the universe. To me "letting go" of that control seems natural, although to be honest I haven't explored it as much as others.

What about being in control all the time is appealing to you?

I don't necessarily see drug use a sign of being out of control either. They affect everyone differently though.

I know one guy, someone I've known for years, who took a couple of shots of whiskey and suddenly became a monster. Angry, impulsive, ready to fight. When we hung out one night I ended up with 2 drug dealers a cocaine user and a prostitute in my apartment because he had invited them over from the street on the way over to my apartment. I could have called the cops, but I was literally too scared. These people were in my home. I haven't drank whisky with him since then, he's a much better person off the hooch.

On the other hand, I know more than one person who graduated with degrees in physics and mathematics yet they were habitual drug users with completely normal lives from the outside.

This just is reminding me of _refugee_'s quilt story: https://hubski.com/pub?id=198987

user-inactivated  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pretty interesting interview with the first guy to synthesize methoxetamine (an analog of ketamine) I post it because he did the majority of work and abuse while pursuing a p.h.d. Also pretty interesting life story. http://www.vice.com/read/interview-with-ketamine-chemist-704-v18n2

Also the only drug I've had a serious binge on (excluding weed/alcohol) ~45 days straight or so. I'm going to find the time to write up a lengthy post in this thread. Drugs were a huge part of my life from 16 till Last april or so. I still use in moderation but not much like before.

No brags, it's just a topics that had a big impact.

user-inactivated  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

    What about being in control all the time is appealing to you?

To be honest this was pointed more at alcohol than drug use. I can't say I know much about the latter, since I've never done it myself and don't regularly see people that do.

It's appealing to me for a few reasons. I've always taken pride in my ability to be self-sufficient in a way. I feel disciplined and principled.

I know people who don't have that control and their lack of it causes them to lash out and hurt other people. I don't want to be like that.

Having these principles has gotten other students to try to get me to succumb to the peer pressure because it's a joke to them. That's a challenge that I intend to win.

It can be frustrating though, because people take those principles as me not taking them seriously or judging them for drinking. I don't give no shiiiits, it's just not my thing. If you're that upset about it there's probably a deeper problem at hand.

mknod  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·  

First off this

    If you're that upset about it there's probably a deeper problem at hand.

People need to get over themselves. I have friends that will sit at the bar and chat with me but not drink. The fact that this even comes up... well you hit the nail on the head.

Second off this:

    I know people who don't have that control and their lack of it causes them to lash out and hurt other people. I don't want to be like that.

Has given me a serious moment of self reflection I need to chew on. Thank you. Even if it wasn't intended in such a way.

BrainBurner  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have nothing against drugs; I just wish I was in a good enough place to do them! I think if people want to do drugs they should be able to (within reasonable limits), and if people don't want to do drugs, hell I understand. That being said, I think moderation, with drugs or anything else, is key. Drugs can be great, but overindulgence is hardly ever a good thing.

Which reminds me of a quote my (alcoholic) friend tells me, "Moderation in everything, including moderation!"

user92  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have anxiety disorder and pot does the same to me. I know how to handle it now but I really don't find much pleasure in it so I'll do it maybe a couple times a year if it's being passed around. I do drink but I have to be careful not to fall into self medicating.

BrainBurner  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I like drinking a lot more than pot. As I mentioned before, pot just makes me anxious and paranoid. Alcohol, on the other hand, makes me feel relaxed and more social, which I like very much. I never feel like I'm self-medicating though, I would only drink on weekend nights when I was going out. I just have trouble controlling how much I drink.

mknod  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I've worked hard to improve on my anxiety, depression, and overthinking. I'm finally in a good place, and I don't want to mess with that.

Hey good job! In a society which demonizes people with disorders as being weird or lazy you've recognized that you worked hard to help yourself overcome it. I think that's something to be really proud of.

user-inactivated  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You've already had problems with what you have tried?

BrainBurner  ·  3369 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I smoked pot when I was 18-20 (I'm almost 23 now). I liked it at first, but as I went along it became less and less enjoyable, and more and more paranoia and anxiety inducing. Not that I smoked that often anyways, only when I was offered it. I think if you're in a good mental state, pot is a great drug. That 18-20 period coincided with my anxiety etc kicking into high gear. So maybe someday, when I'm quite certain I'm happy and in a sound place, I'll occasionally indulge. For now, I don't see that day coming any time soon.

Two side notes: 1. I'm extremely afraid to try LSD (or whatever drug(s) you need to be in a good mental place to enjoy), because I know I will have a bad trip. 2. I kick ass at beer pong when I eat weed brownies. I can barely walk, but hot damn I can sink cup after cup like it's no one's business.

As for alcohol, that's a whole other issue. Suffice it to say, my family history and past drinking binges have convinced me drinking is just not a healthy choice for myself. The potential bad consequences far outweigh any benefits I may gain from it.

OftenBen  ·  3368 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I can barely walk, but hot damn I can sink cup after cup like it's no one's business.

Preach. I'm so much better at pong if I'm baked.