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humanodon  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Is Hubski An Echo Chamber?

I think a lot of people come here without understanding the difference between discussion, discourse and debate. To me, this site is mostly for discussion, that is, we talk about things in a fairly casual manner for the most part.

There is also a lot of discourse, which is generally speaking, talking to each other intelligently and earnestly about various articles and issues that concern us. For example, I would say that this thread invites discourse more specifically than discussion.

Debate is much more in line with taking a position, defending it, modifying it, exploring other angles with the intent of winning.

Personally, I am not looking for a site where I have to deal with people making comments such as "source?" or even to bother explaining myself. I do that at work all day. It's not what I want to do in my leisure time. What I do want to do is chat with other people who know about stuff I don't.

To finally answer your question, I don't think that hubski is an echo chamber. There are many documented instances of sharing information and the exploration of topics that interest individual users. Yes, there are also documented instances of users coming in, fists balled, looking to pick a fight over some ism or another or whatever the flavor of outrage is that day. From my experience, I don't think that we really need to worry about an "echo chamber" because hubski is not the kind of community where we generally look to reinforce any one particular point of view and certainly not with an intent to get others to think in that way.





mknod  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Personally, I am not looking for a site where I have to deal with people making comments such as "source?"

This is irritating to the nth degree to me. While I think it's important to back up facts if you are giving them, simply saying "source?" is one of the laziest and irritating things I see online.

Not everything has a source for one thing, I don't need peer reviewed papers to tell me that toilet paper in my bathroom is white.

For another thing, I've noticed this HORRIBLE trend where people will post things with lines like:

source: "I ate burritos last night"

That is NOT EVEN a source! If I were to write a paper on how I've discovered a magentic monopole, submit it to Physical Review A, and say source: "I once lived in Alaska, there are magnetic monopoles up there", they wouldn't even laugh at me, it's in the realm of Not Even Wrong

The whole questioning for sources online gets me really angry. I've seen arguments turn into "Who ever can find the most papers on a subject wins". It's ridiculous and one of the many reasons I am glad for hubski.

humanodon  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, well said. When I see "echo chamber" it has a negative connotation, but I am all for a site culture where we can talk to each other about things and if we have a disagreement, we can be open to educating each other.

mknod  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sorry humanodon, I went off on a bit of a rant there but I was happy to find someone who shared my opinion about the subject :D

humanodon  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No worries pal, I bet it bothers some other people on hubski too!