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deepflows  ·  3189 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Anyone here a socialist as well?

How would you say this logic holds up in a market where work itself has become a rare commodity while workers are easily replaced?





salathor  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hi deepflows,

I am not sure it's a valid question--what makes something a "rare commodity" is its relative lack of availability in a market. The very sign that makes work a "rare commodity" is that workers of a particular skillset are NOT easily replaced. In our market (U.S.), for example, we have a large population of low- and medium-skilled labor leftover from demographic shifts toward a highly skilled tech economy. That level of work may be common, while tech/STEM/trade skills may be less so. In such an instance, wages for low-skilled employees will drop as they fight for fewer jobs (since automation is reducing the manpower needed to complete any task) while wages for highly skilled employees rise as employers fight to adapt to a new economic model.

If the workers are easily replaced, that skillset is prevalent, and the employer will gain pricing pressure to decrease wages until enough workers move into other fields to make replacement difficult. After that, the work will become rare, wages for that skillset will rise, and companies will have to pay more to attract labor.

And then the cycle will repeat.

deepflows  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'll concede that "work as a rare commodity" doesn't apply to highly skilled professionals in vital / sought after fields. The definition of "sought after field" is going to change over time, yes.

You mentioned automation. I'll add rationalization (in the sociological / economical sense) to that. What you end up with is not a simple shift away from traditional jobs towards new ones. You end up with a situation where productivity is decoupled from demand for workforce (and thus, wages). A quick search produced this graphic to illustrate my point:

And yet, as far as robotics go, we are only really getting started. Sure, there's manufacturing, but other fields which were traditionally in strong demand of human labor are beginning to see change, too: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jsimms/2015/04/01/yoshiyuki-sankais-cyborgs-serve-japans-sick-and-elderly/

By now, the idea of "new jobs which we can't even imagine today" replacing those lost by automation, rationalization (inlcuding concentration of workloads on highly skilled individuals) has been pretty much proven a myth. Yeah, there are new and high-techy fields of work. They just happen to come not even close to replacing the jobs which were lost in creating these fields.

How, in a system which still closely links financial wellfare to gainful employment, could we not regard work as an increasingly rare commodity? With all the implications for those in the "reserve force" and those who can be truthfully told "If you don't like the conditions, I have a hundred guys ready to replace you."

This whole development could actually produce a very liberating situation. I blame (the protestant ethic and the spirit of) capitalism for making it a nightmare.