Joe Biden, you'll remember, is the sole reason Obama's thinking on gay marriage "evolved". He was the liberal one in that relationship. Just because we've let know-nothing, do-nothing commies redefine what it means to be a liberal doesn't mean that Biden isn't one. Also, the majority of leaders in the black community supported the crime bill (and attempts to make that not true are just dishonest and historically wrong), so Biden thought he was doing what was right at the time. After all, it was black communities who were suffering under an oppressive amount of crime in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. The crime bill turned out to be a bad piece of legislation, but them's the breaks. My biggest problem with Biden is his age. I'm sort of sick of Boomers on the one hand, but I REALLY don't want Kamala Harris being one breath from the presidency when the president is a senile septuagenarian. If you think he's bad on crime...