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tacocat  ·  2224 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: A conservative argument for gun violence restraining orders

I'm not getting into it with you again. You're an alright guy. But we should heavily restrict guns. Period. "Bear arms" as it was used in the 18th century meant for the purposes of the military. I'm fine letting people have handguns and shotguns and certain rifles for hunting and self defense but that's entirely a concession based on the insane interpretation of an Amendment that never meant to allow unrestricted civilian ownership of firearms. It was a mistake. It was drafted in the wake of a proto country that failed and had no army. You don't want anyone to own stinger missile launchers, do you? Well that amendment was drafted after a failed attempt to create a loose affiliation style country that had no military and the best solution to that was to provide for a well regulated militia, meaning that all men in the country would take up (military) arms should the nation need their service. It's a relic. And the best arguments for the second amendment boil down to "What if we need to fight the government?" or ""Well I'm a responsible gun owner. " or " they're fun to shoot." You don't need a semi automatic weapon. And I'm aware that that's a loose definition and assault weapon is meaningless and that a revolver is technically semi automatic because it doesn't require human effort to reload the next round. Just shut the fuck up and use some common sense. The founders never envisioned this problem. The founders owned humans. We passed amendments specifically to undo what they started. I think they'd be appalled by the deification they've received. Society moves at the pace of its slowest walkers and some people fucked up your fun forever by killing hundreds of children so you can't have nice things. (Semi automatic guns. Sorry. Tough shit.) Just like I get a speeding ticket even though I could successfully drive on the Autobahn. Just shut the fuck up and let us prevent tens or hundreds of people from dying because of an oddly phrased clause about a nascent military. If you wait for people to be threatening enough that there's evidence enough to take away this right you hold sacred, people are going to get their heads shot off by others who didn't display warning signs.