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OftenBen  ·  2806 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Comey: FBI is investigating Russian election interference, Trump ties

Agreed on all counts.

I'm trying to say that assigning morality to the actions of geopolitical actors is stupid. Self-interest is the highest virtue possible at that level, to the point of mutually assured destruction.

I don't see a way out and if someone does please share with the group. Maybe

    we could stop pretending that we as a country have some kind of moral high ground when that is so clearly not the case.

Would be a place to start, but I can't see how that would progress into something that changes behavior on a scale that matters to issues relating to foreign interference in democratic processes.