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rob05c  ·  3695 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Hey, let's have a discussion about eating meat

I feel guilty. I'm not completely vegetarian, but I don't eat much meat, and when I do, I feel bad.

I grew up on a farm. And for a long time, I believed what I called the "circle of life." Animals were made to be eaten, we eat them, it's all a big happy circle.

Some years ago, my beliefs changed to what I call "all life is precious." I think animals have value. Not as much as humans, but some value, and I'm morally obligated not to harm or kill them if I can help it. Which I can, in my socioeconomic environment.

I don't really have a good logical defense for it. It's more of a feeling. But meh.

I think the masses are largely ethical egoists. I think we'll get to the point where we can grow equally good meat in a lab, cheaper. And within thirty years, the majority people in the first-world will believe eating meat is unethical, once it's convenient for them. I don't think it will be a bad thing; though it will worsen the diversity problem.





pseydtonne  ·  3695 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Not all life is precious. Look at deer: they were pretty until our suburbs got too close to their lands (that changed happened in my lifetime). Now they're rats with antlers.

...and they're so yummy. Ever had barbecue venison?

Life isn't really that precious: it's fairly resilient. Silverfish, for example.

Besides, guilt is how the ruling class clips your wings. They aren't giving you anything through their passive-aggressive manipulation, so don't offer them a sacrifice.

user-inactivated  ·  3695 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    rats with antlers.

GOD YES.

They're like the rats of the fucking forest.

And pigeons are the rats of the sky.

What are the rats of sea?

To reiterate - I fuckin hate deer, bruh.

OftenBen  ·  3695 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Life in the wild is nasty, brutish and cheap.

If a hunter doesn't kill a deer, a car will. Or a wolf will. Or it will break it's leg and be left by it's herd to die in solitary agony of blood poisoning. These animals will all die, and often by more violent and painful ends than a bullet or arrow.

_refugee_  ·  3694 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    If a hunter doesn't kill a deer, a car will

Fernando, Killer of Deers:

elizabeth  ·  3612 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ok, waaaay too late but I've been reading this all over again since it was linked on another discussion today.

Have you seen this bit by Louie CK about deer? It's hilarious.

I think you'd agree with him ;)

rob05c  ·  3695 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Not all life is precious.

I disagree. I didn't claim my belief is based on logic or reason; but that's how I feel. Sorry.

    Ever had barbecue venison?

I have. It's pretty good.

    guilt is how the ruling class clips your wings

Yeah...I don't think the hegemony is keeping us down with vegetarianism.

pseydtonne  ·  3695 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The hegemony is totally keeping us down with corporate food. The appeals to emotion to avoid one corporate food (meat) for another (soy) is just Coke for Pepsi. Whitey, you nasty mofo!