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Lobstah  ·  4119 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Fallacy of the Baseball Hall of Fame

Well I think some, if not most, of these guys are intelligent and understand baseball, but as Goldmine alluded to, they're trying to use their ballots to make a statement. And that shit just shouldn't fly. BoobsAreAwesome brought up some good points too- make the votes publicly available and take away votes from anyone who turns in a blank ballot.





user-inactivated  ·  4119 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Preaching to the choir.

However, I think it's been pretty well shown throughout the years that most of the HoF voters don't have a good grasp on the actual statistical analysis that is needed to determine relative player worth. Some do; the vocal minority who write the blogs. But it's important to remember that for every young Bill James acolyte, there are ten old-time sportswriters who don't really know what they're doing.

Lobstah  ·  4119 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh nice post, I'm new here so didn't catch it. But yeah, I seriously can't believe how many writers/scouts/fans STILL 'aren't buying into' Sabermetrics. Like...what the hell else do you need to see??

user-inactivated  ·  4119 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The problem is they still see it as something to buy into. That is, that Sabermetrics and the old-school way of judging baseball players are two competing viewpoints. If you'll allow me to get dramatic, it's a bit like evolution and creationism.

Who's your team?

Lobstah  ·  4119 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Right, that's the nail on the head. It's not incompatible with anything, they're just statistics for crying out loud.

Royals, unfortunately. Won the series my year of birth, downhill ever since.

user-inactivated  ·  4119 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, the Royals have a great fanbase and a good city, much like the Cardinals. Two solid teams to root for, in my opinion.

Lobstah  ·  4119 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I follow the Cards pretty closely as well. Lived there for a few years, close proximity, need an NL team, etc. I'm excited we got Price and it looks like David Glass is actually willing to shell out some dough, so maybe a few things to look forward to.