I have actually changed my position on some pretty big subjects because of conversations I've had in the past here. Hi TNG, I noticed an article in the Sunday New York Times in which the writer did not use the Oxford comma. Perhaps the SNYT will only use the comma if necessary for clarity and otherwise not. I continue to study this. (tee hee - I don't want to be rigid about my fondness for certain punctuation, certain preferences and certain dictators.