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user-inactivated  ·  99 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Last Children of Down Syndrome

That's just assuming human life has little to no value. You're projecting your own conscious experience on what you assume would be that of the yet-to-be-born.

OftenBen  ·  99 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I value human life too much to see it wasted and abused as we continue to do when we have the tools and knowledge to do better.

user-inactivated  ·  99 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wasting and abusing life is your opinion, not an objective fact. It was the primary motivation behind the idea of eugenics.

Should low-IQ people be not allowed to have children?

Should poor people be not allowed to have children?

Should rich people who have reprehensible belief systems be not allowed to have children?

Do you see how quickly this becomes a problem?

Did it also occur to you there are people who wanted children and then regret it, as well as people who didn't want children and now don't regret it?

OftenBen  ·  99 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nah I've never once given thought to that idea in all my literal years of study of the issue while in college, while in my ongoing and repeated ethics training at work and in my private reading and study on medical ethics. Has never occured.

You, and steve here are advocating for the spread of disease.

user-inactivated  ·  99 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"Disease" can be a lot of things. Your hot takes are not just "I am 100% certain my baby will have Down Syndrome." And even then, I don't believe a person should be forced to have an abortion in that case.

People who have three children should pay higher taxes why? Because their kids will grow up to also pay taxes?

By your standards a lot of people I know should never have been born. My mother had a ton of miscarriages, was of advanced maternal age, family of 3 kids, etc. There was a high chance I could have had some type of disease, but I didn't.

OftenBen  ·  99 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Continue to advocate for the spread of disease.

Devac  ·  98 days ago  ·  link  ·  

OB, there's a difference between 'not agreeing with your' and 'supporting the opposition in your head'. You have years of training in ethics, I know you're knowledgeable of genetics and medicine. Laudable! Please, use them, and try talking to people like they're not going to, I don't know, disagree with you just because disease are so gosh darn fun. Nevralgic topic aside, lumping everyone who isn't giving you 100% unquestioned support into one bag, the selfish unenlightened far/alt-right Trump-supporting bible-thumping COVID-denying scum as I presume, insults everyone.

Can't you see it, or you just don't care? And before you say some variant of "to hell with manners, this is WAR!", you really, really should care. Not because honey gets more flies than vinegar, but because angry shouting only works on spineless, children or people already intimidated by you.

OftenBen  ·  99 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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