I don't think we should dismiss remarks like this and move on. Speaking as someone watching all of this from the other side of the world, it seems very much like they are testing the waters.
Is victory being declared ballot winner, or is it actually removing the Trump administration from power? If the latter takes years to achieve due to legal processes, how can you declare it a victory?
Cool sentence, Mike. Enough ambiguity to say "I meant there would be a Biden admin. in between term 1 and term 2" or "I meant a Trump business administration".
We don't have to care what these chucklefucks say. Put them on the record, laugh at how much a lame-duck, traitorous president has them by the balls, and realize that their microphone is shrinking by the day.
In fact, Trump's refusal to concede defeat and forcing his sycophants to do the same effectively torpedoes their future political careers, to some extent. I wonder if he's doing it intentionally, to maximize his own chance of staying on top of the GOP scrap pile.
Edit: All that said, what Pompeo is saying is undeniably damaging to our democracy. He knows. He doesn't care. Fuck the lot of them.
Yeah but it’s not a crime so it’s all good.
I still think the best way to damage these people is with comedy, like Kate McKinnon savaging Giuliani on SNL. You know he's watched it. You know it fucks with his head.
For Pompeo? Not very many people will remember this reference, but he will. And he'll see that tweet, if he hasn't already. And it'll fuck with his head.
I'm not about cancel culture, especially at the plebian level, but I'm all for riffing on high-level office holders (or wackadoodle lawyers) who have practically written the punch lines against themselves because of their hypocrisy, idiocy, and disregard for decency. It's also really funny watching people trying to go after folks with integrity, like AOC (protip: choose anyone else, she'll put ya in the ICU with life-threatening burns). People can disagree on political views, but it is a lack of integrity that so easily opens them up to having their careers susceptible to death-by-joke.
If I ran into a Trump or high-level GOP office holder IRL, I'd just start laughing. They're walking jokes, time to start treating them like it.
P.S. I don't identify as democrat, progressive, centrist, or anything, but it's pretty clear who will, um, Be Best for America, at the moment. Almost literally anyone that's not a Trump. Except Mary Trump, she seems chill.
I'm wondering why you think people who are backing Trumps claims are ruining their political careers?
I think running on the idea that this was a stolen election is going to be a big winner for many republicans over the next two cycles and the harder you fought to "save" the election the higher your standing will be with portions of the republican electorate.
It'd be nice if this wasn't the case but I'm feel pretty sure that I can see the future on this one.
Yeah. I just wanted to tell myself, "This time! This time, GOP leadership has gone too far, and the base will erode rapidly."
Thanks for reminding me not to do that. It's only the 13,048th time I tried, and the other 13,047 times? I was wrong.
Fuck, what can we do, but laugh, right? I just keep coming back to trying to channel that against these dipshits. Maybe more tactically, tastefully, or at least more grassroots than SNL.
By my count, there's been a total of something like 4 GOP senators and about the same number of GOP house reps who have either explicitly or implicitly acknowledged that Joe Biden won. That's insane. When I made my comment, I thought we were about to finally see a shift. Lol.
What Trump is doing right now, with delegitimizing our electoral process, is the worst thing he's ever done. It's worse than covid. It really does feel like the beginning of an undoing, the acceleration of societal collapse, or at best, a transformation into something worse, closer to civil war.
It does feel hopeless. The uncertainty kills me, too. At least with Biden, you know what you're getting.
You’re right, but it does make one a coward. Or complicit, or explicitly in agreement, depending on who you are.
We work for very different companies. I work in, and have been a supervisor in, a growing Fortune 500. Myself, my boss, up to the VP in our hierarchy of the organization, are not afraid to speak up, air concerns, say no when it is the right thing to do.
I work with a culture of managers very different from yours, is what it sounds like.
We’re not growing, this culture is ultimately destructive but there is plenty of money to be skimmed off the top while producing no or negative value. Growing companies competed for effective leaders, stagnant companies loves management that tells them want they want to hear and that tow the company line. There is a market niche for both unfortunately.
That’s an important distinction to be made - and one that applies to any size company, nonprofit, etc. I will say - I seem to rarely agree with you politically, but the conversation is always civil, and I appreciate that.