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OftenBen  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: “An Abuse of Sacred Symbols”: Trump, a Bible, and a Sanctuary

Its really simple.

Give the God'n'Guns folks exactly what they want to see to own the libs. Violence, directed at people who are vaguely different from them, orchestrated by a white savior figure with dictatorial power.

American Christianity writ large laps this shit up with a gusto.

The fact that an episcopalian minister denounced him means literally nothing. To the aforementioned God'nGuns folks, Episcopalians are fake Christian's.





kleinbl00  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, mutherfucker, not this time.

You will jump at any fucking chance to blame religion for this, that, the other, whatever and here, right here, is a religious official whose politics are aligned with yours, saying the exact same thing you would for the exact same reasons and you go directly for "yeah but that's not a real religion" and you, Johnny One Note, are going to need to learn a few variations on your mantra if you want anyone to take you seriously ever again.

I get where your hatred comes from. I understand your reasons. But you pretty much sit there sucking your own cock whenever religion is mentioned in any way whatsoever and this right here is a well-written article about religious dissent in the face of hypocritical sloganeering and don't look now, but your behavior is hella closer to the hypocritical sloganeer.

OftenBen  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Unlike you, I spent the formative years of my life in exactly the kind of church that is galvanized by this sort of thing.

I wish that all Christians were like Episcopalians. They aren't.

Episcopalians are constantly mocked, belittled and demeaned as fake Christians by the majority of Christians in the country.

Their beliefs are NOT mainstream.

Honestly I don't even hear anything from you anymore on the topic except "You're not permitted to have an opinion

or thought different from mine without being a cretin."

You were never a fundie. I was. That experiential gap cannot be bridged.

b_b  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I wish that all Christians were like Episcopalians. They aren't.

Lol. I know a lot of Episcopals, because they are my people. You can tell your folks that despite the liberal clergy the average Episcopal is as racist as your guys are. I grew up with the N word sprinkled into conversation very liberally (pardon the pun) by each and every one of my uncles, each and every one of whom never missed church.

kleinbl00  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Bitch I grew up persecuted by fundies and the fact that you think that doesn't count for anything just shows how self-centered your worldview is.

OftenBen  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I believe it gives you a unique perspective unlike my own.

I was a social pariah BECAUSE I was a fundie.

kleinbl00  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And I was a social pariah because it was not.

Anyone who cleaves to one perspective is cultivating willful blind spots.

OftenBen  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Whatever b.

Its just bodies in the streets. Nobody believes in anything.

kleinbl00  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No dude. We're having this discussion because there's a religious official who likely agrees with you 100 percent and you can't get rid of hashtagallreligion.

You're still a fundie. You've just chosen the dogma that pisses your parents off the most. And in the end? What do I care? But that thing around your neck isn't freedom it's just another leash.

orbat  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You can be a real ass sometimes. How about calm it down on the berating others for opinions for a change? OftenBen wasn't wrong about what they said about you previously.

Just… accept that they have a different opinion, have a sensible talk instead of barging in like everyone else is wrong and you're taking heads.

And I honestly, really don't say this with any malice. You just really tend to be overly critical of other people's opinions. They weren't even being critical of religion as such, as far as I could tell

katakowsj  ·  1394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Whether others agree with what you're saying, I gotta believe that the Trumpmeister was working from this perspective.

He may be looking at this latest political stunt as the XFL upgrade was to the NFL. Likely to get similar results as well. We can all hope so.

What an ass-hat president we have.