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comment by goobster

1. Dem Nominee: Elizabeth Warren

2. President: Elizabeth Warren

3. Why:

Elizabeth Warren for President, and Bernie Sanders as VP.

Warren is the only one with a coherent plan, the knowledge, and the experience, to get America back on track, and back in good graces with the rest of the goddamn world. She's vibrant, intelligent, respected internationally, and compassionate.

There are a lot of problems we need to solve, and having a VP that was an effective legislator and champion of logic and reason - instead of just being a figurehead - would be an exquisite thing.

Bernie is too old to be President, and will likely die his first term in office (either VP or Pres). Not to be shitty about it, but the dude is in his 80's, and the office ages people dramatically.

This would also give Warren the ability to appoint a new VP if/when Bernie passes. (With approval by Congress. But Moscow Mitch will be dead by then, too. So Congress may get back to work, eventually.) So Bernie gets the VP nod, does his work on disempowering the corporate class and 1%, passes away, and then is replaced by someone like Andrew Yang, who can be tuned-up as VP to run for Warren's seat after 8 years.





thenewgreen  ·  1688 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd love to see a President Warren, if nothing else to show off my photo with her:

Not Pictured The 10 pounds I've lost since this photo was taken.

goobster  ·  1688 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Not Pictured The 10 pounds I've lost since this photo was taken.

Well actually... those 10lbs ARE in the picture! :-D

thenewgreen  ·  1688 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah... that wasn't well thought out on my end :)

medwave  ·  1684 days ago  ·  link  ·  

:-)

kleinbl00  ·  1688 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Bernie Sanders is 77. Trump is 73. Elizabeth Warren is 70. Quoth Politico:

    Remember the Soviet Politburo? In the waning years of the Cold War, a frequent criticism of the USSR was that its ruling body was preposterously old and out of touch. Every May Day these geezers would show up on a Moscow reviewing stand, looking stuffed, and fix their rheumy gaze on a procession of jackbooted Red Army troops, missiles and tanks. For Americans, the sight was always good for a horselaugh. In 1982, when Leonid Brezhnev, the last of that generation to hold power for any significant length of time, went to his reward, the median age of a Politburo member was 71. No wonder the Evil Empire was crumbling!

    You see where this is going. The U.S. doesn’t have a Politburo, but if you calculate the median age of the president, the speaker of the House, the majority leader of the Senate, and the three Democrats leading in the presidential polls for 2020, the median age is … uh … 77.

That said, the democratic power structures seem to be aligning (as of September 2019) around Warren. Ben Hunt over at Epsilon Theory gets super-salty over the "narrative" but the fact of the matter is, we endorse stories not facts and the Elizabeth Warren story is one that establishment democrats are happy with and non-establishment democrats seem willing to live with. They're starting to bring up her conservative upbringing and conservative early political history which is always a "look you can vote for her too" move.

OftenBen  ·  1688 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Is this your endorsement of Warren?

Is this saying that you think Warren will be the nominee?

kleinbl00  ·  1688 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've endorsed Warren since 2004. That said, any of the democratic contenders out there are vastly superior to what we have now. I would say that any of the democratic contenders with the exception of Marianne Williamson are credible candidates for the job.

As to who will be the nominee? I think she's got the momentum now but we haven't had a single caucus. Howard Dean was the obvious nominee up until the Washington power structure decided that they were more comfortable with Droopy Dog the windsailer. The shitstains at the DNC might very well decide that they're going to go to the mattresses giving Biden his "turn" despite declaring him an unqualified liar fuckin' 30 years ago.

thenewgreen  ·  1688 days ago  ·  link  ·  

@klienbl00@ What is your prediction. Realizing that this is just a gamble for a fake internet trophy :) What say ye?

kleinbl00  ·  1688 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I predict we'll be saddled with Biden as the nominee, some vaguely edgy but largely worthless white guy like Beto O'rourke as the VP and we'll get fuckin' Trump again because there is every indication that the DNC are a bunch of incompetent fuckwits that are far more interested in maintaining their place in the clubhouse than the republic that fuckin' delivers their checks.

goldbludgeon  ·  1683 days ago  ·  link  ·  

As much as I'd love to see Warren in the White House, I'd have to agree with you here. The DNC will pull some stupid move and we'll end up with another four years of Trump.

ArtemusBlank  ·  1687 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I really think if Bernie was ten years younger, then he would have a stronger chance of getting the nomination. He gets people going and believing in him. However no one really wants a really old president in America. Sure Biden is out there as well not much younger than Bernie but I am not sure people really want him either.

kleinbl00  ·  1687 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think the principle problem Bernie Sanders faces is he announced his candidacy (and his membership in the Democratic Party) on the premise that there was no fucking way Hillary Clinton could run unopposed.

Now - you can feel any way you want about that. Personally I'm all about it. But he's also saying "dear Democratic power structure: up yours. Sincerely, Bernie Sanders." And that's why they did shit like fuck with the primary rules to keep him out. And over the past four years, the DNC has shown little-to-no contrition for this.

OftenBen  ·  1687 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Why would they show contrition? Who would hold them responsible?