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comment by francopoli

I've never got the appeal of Titty bars. Never been to a strip club. Where I grew up there were other places to go to ogle women who were better looking (The Beach), more fit (the mountains) or smarter (colleges). Then again I never went through a 'dude-bro/caveman' phase really so I missed out on this whole experience.

The only thing I really care about in a food service establishment is the, and hear me out on this one, the food. The best Mexican food is served in what some people will call "dirty" places. the best chinese food is often found in tiny hole-in-the-wall shops. And the best BBQ is often in food trucks. I care about the food, not the uniform of the wait staff.

kleinbl00  ·  273 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Female-exhibition-as-commerce is an expression of the commoditization of eroticism. If you view sex as transactional, the microtransactions of a wet T-shirt contest make perfect sense. If instead you understand sex as social, the microtransactions of a g-string full of dollar bills causes confusion.

There has long been a trend among porn stars and strippers to talk about the empowerment of their jobs. The argument usually goes something like "I'm the one in control, I'm the one controlling what they see, I'm the one controlling what they do" while failing to address the fact that the structure within which they operate is a male construct owned and operated and exploited and policed by males.

Yeah, objectification places the emphasis on the object... but feminists are rarely in control of the platform. "Titty bars" are fundamentally about sexist losers exploiting women to profit off of other sexist losers and if you can credibly appreciate your role as a sexist loser you lose all interest in the game. I've known two or three women who were fascinated by strippers and porn stars and in all cases, it was the power dynamics that interested them. It was also transitory once they'd really internalized the structure.

ArtemusBlank  ·  273 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I never got the appeal of titty bars either and have no desire to go to a strip club. It's a whole lot cheaper to just to go on a computer to look for naked women doing whatever your heart desires. It beats the hell out of going to a place that's filled with a bunch of forty year old losers hooting and screaming for tits all the while drinking crappy beer and liquor in a usually shady place. And if you want women to talk to you in a sexy matter, just go on a cam show instead of going out to a club.