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oyster  ·  2106 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Real or Fake news? - Father of one of the “Separated” children speaks

Do you mean to say you don’t know if you should believe if your government is separating families because of the media ? He admitted doing it...





snoodog  ·  2106 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Someone somewhere probably got separated sure, but is it happened systematically? Are there other underlying reasons like say the person has been arrested at the border multiple times or is trafficking drugs. If someone who was a citizen subjected their kid to the same conditions that the mother did it’s likely CPS would have come and taken the kid into protective custody. What I’m saying is that you see the outrage angle clearly in the media reporting but there may be other important pieces of information that are missing, some of which may not be legally allowed to be released even.

The story plays out as children are being snatched away from their parents at the border because trump is a bad person and hates immigrants. That’s not what is happening though the story is significantly more nuanced and complicated than that. Reading multiple reports you can kind of piece something tougher but it’s all very murky and sensationalized.

oyster  ·  2106 days ago  ·  link  ·  

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009241032100335616

    while at the same time recommending changes to obsolete & nasty laws, which force family separation.

He literally in the literal sense of the word said this is happening. Nobody in his government has denied this at all. They literally said that they are sepeating families because they are prosecuting everybody that crosses illegally even if they apply for asylum once getting there. They’re just blaming Democrats.

The basics are that they’ve decided to prosecute everybody who cross illegally and although they say people can still cross a bridge legally those people are waiting days in the hot sun hearing nothing. The dumbest thing is that a lot of those people will probably gain entry into the country, and their child will be traumatized by the experience depending on age. The point of keeping families together is to not fuck up their brain development before you let them into your society. It’s like me emotionally scarring somebody at my door and then inviting them into my house, it’s probably better to not emotionally scar them.

Keeping families separate is one thing. Doing it without ensuring a proper child to caretaker ratio is idiotic and having to figure out where to house said children after enacting the policy is reckless. I have a hard time believing this government agency can’t look back at the previous year to estimate how much they’ll likely take in and how much space/tents/beds/caretakers they need.

When your government says it does something and you still try to believe they’re not doing that thing it might be time to take a step back.

tacocat  ·  2105 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Trump is a bad person who hates immigrants. Source: I follow him on Twitter and have seen him give speeches. He's using factual reporting as examples of attacks against him. And he can do it because his actions are that bad. He's literally unbelievably terrible. He's intentionally eroding trust in the media so he can get away with anything.