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b_b  ·  186 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: DNC rule change angers Sanders supporters

I found myself squarely on the side of the DNC during the campaign last year, because the argument that you should be a democrat if you want the democratic party to support you sort of made sense to me. It's a private organization, so they can make whatever rule they want. I would argue, and did, that the GOP has the same prerogative, and that they could have used that to keep the country safe from Trump.

I'm not so sure anymore. It seems more realistic that there aren't any realistic possibilities of someone becoming the president (and really very little chance of even becoming a legislator) if you don't run as a democrat or republican. In that sense they aren't really private. They're de facto government. So I've somewhat come around on this. In any case, no matter what you think of Clinton or Sanders, I'm not sure now is the time for the democrats to piss a lot of their potential voters off.

I can and will spend significant personal funds this year to try to get democrats elected. I've hated the GOP for a long time, but I've never donated cash before. I'm not donating to the DNC, but to individual candidates. However, if the DNC fucks up this opportunity this will be the first and last time I spend hard earned cash on their bullshit machinery.




ThatFanficGuy  ·  186 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How high do you reckon the chance for someone getting elected as an independent right now is?

b_b  ·  186 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The bigger the election, the lower the probability. Local elections are often non-partisan, for example.

For national elections, it's hard. I'd estimate for congress it's like 2%, and for president it's 0%.

tacocat  ·  186 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I probably gave $100 dollars I couldn't really afford to Bernie. This seems like a minor technical change that won't change anything in the end. Russian trolls used anger at the DNC to get Trump elected so I don't know that I'm going to wash my hands of the whole party because they saw Hilary as more electable or whatever bullshit they might pull in the future. Republicans on a good day are arguably evil and we're living through the worst of what that party can do. It's not pretty

b_b  ·  186 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I also think the practical effect of the rule is small. The main point is that it is clearly a fuck you to Sanders, which I don't think is a good posture. They should be thinking about inclusivity more than almost anything.

kleinbl00  ·  186 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I know a good candidate for your money.

b_b  ·  186 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks. May do so after the primary. A friend of mine (Haley Stevens) is running in Michigan's 11th, and she has by far the best odds to win the primary, but I told her I'm done until the general. Democratic infighting just ain't my cup of tea. Happy to try to beat up on GOP nihilists when the primary dust settles, however.

bfv  ·  186 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If this is turning into a people you know running for Congress thread, send in the clowns.

steve  ·  186 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I like this clown