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WanderingEng  ·  255 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Twenty-First Century Victorians

I wasn't prepared for how much this article would piss me off.

    Marathon running has become the ultimate signifier: competitors can post photos on social media to prove to everyone that they have tortured their bodies in a highly virtuous — and not at all kinky — fashion.

Oh fuck off. Nobody is running a marathon as virtue signaling. Nobody who hasn't run a marathon understands what it's like, and anyone who has run one knows it's intensely personal. Talk to runners for a few minutes and you'll find there's a question nobody asks: what was your time?

That section links to this piece of shit:

    One might feel less excited about completing a 5K race, for instance, if their Facebook friends were simultaneously posting photos from a marathon finish line.

Look, if you're feeling ashamed at not doing as much, that's on you. It isn't their fault. Any runners know loves talking to other runners about runs. Someone taking for a 50 mile run comes to my Tuesday group run, and she couldn't be more welcoming. Does she make me less likely to do my own thing? Heck no.

    We should care about health, food, and education. But instead of seeing them as ways to prop up class dominance, we should improve them for everyone.

How about "instead of seeing them as things that prop up class dominance, we should see them as things to encourage all to strive for." The whole piece feels like "I feel bad for not doing as much, and it's your fault. You should do less so I feel better about doing less."

Odder  ·  254 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The fact that the author can only envision someone ever finishing a marathon as a form of virtue signalling tells you a lot more about Marxists than it probably should.

b_b  ·  255 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Getting worked up over a Jacobin article is about as useful as getting worked up over a Breitbart article.

Edit: Not that I'm saying you shouldn't get worked up. Not trying to belittle your very valid points--just pointing out that they're a liberal clown show who doesn't deserve the respect of an honest critique.

keifermiller  ·  255 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's a socialist magazine with a paywall.


kleinbl00  ·  254 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Your twelve syllables have rendered my essay moot. I must now render it as a haiku to soothe my ego.

Jacobin: It's a

Socialist magazine but

It has a paywall.

Nope. I cannot improve upon your prose.

bfv  ·  254 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Jacobin are fairly conventional marxists, trying to be approachable. That's a hard line to walk, but they're not clownish.

keifermiller  ·  254 days ago  ·  link  ·  

IMHO, jacobin is at their best when they're focusing on history.

Their print edition on the Irish Revolutionaries, or the one on American Unionism were both interesting.

bfv  ·  254 days ago  ·  link  ·  

They have the same problem the old party newspapers had. They're committed to the one kind of analysis, and it's not appropriate for everything, but they need a certain volume of articles within a fixed span of time. But I don't think this post is ridiculous, its gist is the same as Graeber's work on manners, that having to follow the rules that are ingrained in the elites to interact easily with elites helps keep the elites' families elite.