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kleinbl00  ·  2287 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: America’s Fastest Spy Plane May Be Back—and Hypersonic

I'm unconvinced that a compelling use case exists for the SR-72. The turn radius at Mach 6 is non-negligible and anywhere you wanna get that thing you'll be in the airspace of somebody who doesn't want it there.

Besides which, the SR-71 stopped flying because it was vulnerable to the R-33. The R-33 is still in service and the R-37 is faster.

Russia could keep any potential SR-72 on the ground simply by threatening to sell R-37s/MiG-31s to anyone we might want to spy on. Or, simply leak the plans.

Missiles are much easier, cheaper and faster to develop than aircraft.





user-inactivated  ·  2287 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I'm unconvinced that a compelling use case exists for the SR-72.

With the real possibility of global tracking of anything bigger than a falcon, me either. This is why, IMO, we just "lost" a satellite. Then again with so damn many birds up there who knows what birds are spy satellites (all of them), what can image your troops in the field (all of them) and what birds can track your electronic signals (all of them). Launch a weather satellite with a special not advertised payload of say a 1M camera, or an elint package. Add on customers to the satellite bus, and if you are already a government agency it may already be happening with the LandSat family for all we know. The Air Force already has a fleet of weather satellites, why not add some extra gear if the power budget allows since the main cost is launch and ops, not building the sat itself. Then you start to get into Alex Jones, tin-foil hate territory of what is possible, what is probable and how you can fuck with people.

I'm wondering if we are going to hit a point in the very near future where there are so many spy sats from so many players that the very concept of war itself is going to go through a radical transformation. Why fight and risk breaking the stuff you want and having to rebuild when you can write checks with lots and lots of zeros, and then hack what you cannot buy?

kleinbl00  ·  2287 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If you follow the real armchair defense guys they use commercially-available imagery.

    We may go back again with better optics. They help a bunch. However, it's mostly for the exercise as there's a ridge that hides the main runway anyway… and since 2011 there's a weather station on top of Tikaboo peak with a PTZ camera. It probably didn't follow us. It sure felt like it. All I know is that if I were a secret air force base, I'd figure out a way to put a microphone on that thing. If they can consider Ted Molczan a "hostile target" they can sure as hell just not fly when there's someone up on Tikaboo.

"Weather station." Last photo published from that thing is September.