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veen  ·  2340 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The GOP's fractal incompetence problem

    I don't think that without "grab 'em by the pussy" that we'd have people like Glenn Thrush and Charlie Rose being suspended.

I found Ezra Klein's conversation with Rebecca Trainer very enlightening. She remarks that the whole awakening we're going through now is not just about unearthing the sexual harassment itself, but probably more about finally seeing repercussions for that harassment. As in, the difference between Chris Rock and Harvey Weinstein is that only one of those two careers is destroyed because of the awful things they've done to women.

What people hoped was that Trump's sexual harassment would have repercussions on his political career and that it didn't says a lot about how far we still have to go.





b_b  ·  2340 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What I'm saying is that without Trump, there is no Weinstein. If Trump were to have lost, like we all expected, then we would have patted ourselves on the back and said, "See, the system works! You assault women, you pay." His victory gave rise to the women's march and similar events, which were supposed to be about power and not just Trump. So when another Big Bad Wolf is exposed, but this time a liberal, it's up to liberals to put up or shut up. It looks for now as if we're not making a distinction between political leanings, which should of course be the case. I heard one guy say that the Trump presidency is America resetting its broken bone. This is part of that.

veen  ·  2340 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Trainer's point is also that were it not for Trump, this backlash against harassment would never be as strong as it is. She also worries about what the backlash against #metoo might be, and now I kinda worry about that as well. Let's hope this resetting the bone doesn't break even more.