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weewooweewoo  ·  2425 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Yet another thing Millennials are killing: electric guitars

Holy shit, I almost impulse bought that Monoprice Guitar, but it was out of stock. Monoprice probably best represents my buying habits and values as a consumer, it's like a nerdy secret shop that can pretty much do no wrong. Obviously, I am fully immersed in Monoprice kool-aid, are the guitars actually that shitty in person?





cgod  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If it holds it's tuning there is no reason not to buy it. People jerk off way too much over their gear. There is no correlation between dick size and how much money was spent on your guitar but it'd be real hard to tell that by listening to people with expendable income talk. Playing a piece of shit guitar that you bought for $70 bucks should be good fun until it breaks (a $70 guitar will break).

Buying a used will get you a better guitar for the money. If you don't currently play guitar than you have no idea what you like and it doesn't really matter what you buy right now anyways.

My two favorite guitars and the only two I've held on to are far from the most expensive I've ever owned. Gear jerk offs would probably look down on at least one of them, real snobs would look down on both but I love things about how both of them play an they suit my tastes and style. Gear jerk offs would have loved the most expensive guitar I traded but it totally wasn't for me.

flac  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

(Not advice for cgod, just adding to your point)

Never bought a new guitar in my life, and am currently making music with an electric guitar that the music store near me (Trade Up) threw in for free with my $20 amp. My gear apart from that is a $25 banjo, a bass that was given to me, and the same $100 acoustic guitar I've had for 10 years.

I've never given a fuck about gear, because "tone" is about a dozen orders of magnitude less important than composition and performance to me. It's a hell of a lot easier to get good tone than to write a decent song or put on a good show. Fuck the cult of tone - unless you make music that is largely textural, like noise rock, it just doesn't matter that much if you aren't doing big shows.

Get thee to a pawn shop. Buy a guitar that isn't broken, learn how to solder a shitty pickup, and find the right strings for your guitar and your music. Really can't overemphasize that last point. A set of strings is going to set you back $5 - if you want to sound good and stay in tune, buy a new set every week or two.

thenewgreen  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    t's a hell of a lot easier to get good tone than to write a decent song or put on a good show.
amen.

That said, you're damn good at capturing sound and mixing your music. That, along with great songwriting is about all you need.

But yes, it does all begin and end with good songwriting.

weewooweewoo  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'll do some digging. A pawn shop isn't a bad idea at all, plus I love doing my own repairs.

Also, there's something really amusing to me that your telling me this while your name is 'flac'.

flac  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh! Also, whatever guitar you get, take some time just exploring it sonically. Flip around the pickup switch, play the same note on different strings, mess around with where you pluck the strings (closer to the neck, closer to the bridge). Technique and positioning plays a tremendous part in getting the sound you want.

Here's a great video of Segovia showing what I'm talking about:

Here is, from what I recall of it, a pretty concise soldering tutorial:

flac  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, I kind of don't care/know very much about audio stuff - the name's a holdover from Super Smash Bros Melee days in college. It fit in the name slot, and I thought "Fully Lossless" was a decent brag/joke.

weewooweewoo  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yo, what. There's another melee player on Hubski? I'm pretty bad, but I love keeping up with the scene, I also designed the Alaska PR poster awhile ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/5tvzok/alaska_melee_winter_2016_power_rankings/

I main Marth and my tag is NoUp. If we ever have a Hubski meetup I'll bring a set up.

flac  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Please do! I'm a Ganon main, I lived in an apartment with a few other competitive players. Haven't played since I graduated. Marth was the bane of my existence. I used to main Ness, and Mofo (of this legendary match ) actually lived near my school, so I got to learn some cool tricks from him. I've toyed with the idea of having a non fraudulent main, but life is too short to learn multishining.

weewooweewoo  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You linked to the Reign of Kindo video, which tripped me up. I don't play much anymore, but so many of my friends from disparate circles play. Both of my little brothers are also ranked in PM, I can't even come close to touching them.

flac  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oops, fixed.

What are your brothers names? I had a pretty solid Kirby in 3.0 PM, haven't played much since.

weewooweewoo  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I main Kirby in PM too! Threefish and Ren, I think they're ranked like 4 and 5 in Alaska for PM. We also just had Umbreon stay here for a summer, he helped developed some of the character movesets in PM. He dominated PM his entire stay here, he knows how to gimp with a lot of characters, but that's kind of expected, haha.

kleinbl00  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Fuckin' I cannot believe that I'm sitting here having to defend the statement "don't buy a goddamn Monoprice guitar."

Fuck y'all.

flac  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I mean, I've gotten up on stage with a diddley bow made out of 1 string and a plank of wood before, my standards are real fuckin' low.

I also make, primarily, folk and lo-fi music. If I made actual real jazz, you bet your ass I'd get myself a decent semi-hollow. If I made metal, I'd get something I could shred with.

If I was learning to play again, I would buy the cheapest (playable) guitar I could until I knew what kind of music I wanted to play, and then specialize after.

Monoprice may or may not be shit - I'm guessing there's a reason I haven't heard of them.

cgod  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Meh, if I had one I'd play it and have fun.

kleinbl00  ·  2425 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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weewooweewoo  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wait, this is one of those things where I'm like, wait, it's Monoprice- their whole thing is that they are anti-brand, test it against everything 'we have a $7 dollar headphone that audiophiles love and a $10 knife that America's Test Kitchen keeps raving about" sort of mentality. There's even a Planet Money podcast on them, where they take on some sort of fancy computer monitor and ultimately lose in the end. Thrifty millenials like me eat shit like this up, it's like the consumer dream of the internet age.

Ok, I used to have a Squier when I was younger, haven't owned a guitar in a 7 years or so. I kind of have cgod's mentality of "I just need something that works". A $70 dollar guitar in this context feels perfect, but I'm suddenly aware of how weird it is for me to defend a brand on the basis of how much I like it's company philosophy. Will update if I decide to pick up a guitar.

kleinbl00  ·  2424 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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