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kleinbl00  ·  2463 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: US healthcare: Senate 'skinny repeal' bill fails

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they fail this time they have to go back to zero. Not to say they can't but it's not like they can pick up where they left off.





user-inactivated  ·  2462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My understanding was that this was a pure FUCK YOU.

This was a 50 vote role call to move the bill to the house for a vote. Due to this being a reconciliation bill, all they needed was 50+1(Pence). Due to Senate rules, with the failure of this reconciliation vote, they have to start from scratch and have to go through the normal rules.

McCain was on-board according to the article on The Hill or maybe Forbes(?) until he walked onto the floor and voted.

Hate McCain, will probably hate him forever, but man this was a great move to fuck the process.

kleinbl00  ·  2462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And more than that, this was part of budget reconciliation. And before they can actually do any budget reconciliation, they needed to get the fake budget reconciliation out of the way. And now the fake budget reconciliation is done, and they have to do real budget reconciliation, which means if they want to try this again, they have to do it the next time they have a budget to reconcile.

user-inactivated  ·  2463 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wait. I thought this was 5x% because it was counting as a budget vote. If they submit a new bill, doesn't that mean it's no longer a budget vote and that they need 60% to pass?

cgod  ·  2462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Can they get by on budget extensions and shut down until Menendez or McCain is out of the way? Can Trump apply enough pressure to Justice get a deal for Menendez that gets him out of office and keeps him out of jail in time to push another bill through. Would Menendez hold out until after a budget in loyalty to the party if it's a sweet enough deal (I doubt it).

I don't know if Trump is sophisticated enough to get it done. He might be able to dig his grave screwing around with a Menendez deal, Jeff Sessions might not be in the mood for it. If they can get the vote before the budget I think Ryan and McConnell would be ready for another try.