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WanderingEng  ·  2684 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Blohm & Voss BV 141 is a weird bird.

I enjoy going down the rabbit hole of German World War Two aircraft.





user-inactivated  ·  2684 days ago  ·  link  ·  

To me, it seems like up to and shortly after WWII were probably the early days of aviation. I bet there's all sorts of weird designs out there though chances are not many of them ever went into full production. Could you imagine someone making a similar proposal to this today?

kleinbl00  ·  2684 days ago  ·  link  ·  

To no one's surprise, the advent of computers and computational analysis eliminated a lot of the obviously bad ideas.

Kelly Johnson had a maxim that ugly planes were bad designs; what we see as "ugly" is nothing more than intuition.

A number of German and English designers lacked this intuition.

snoodog  ·  2684 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hobbyists build all sorts of wired designs. It's just that certification authorities make them impossible to certify so they always fly experimental tickets

user-inactivated  ·  2684 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I bet there's all sorts of weird designs out there though chances are not many of them ever went into full production. Could you imagine someone making a similar proposal to this today?

Not quite the same level of weird, but this thread made me remember mid 2000's F1 for some reason.

kleinbl00  ·  2684 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There's "aerodynamics is a new science" weird and there's "corner case rule changes" weird.

user-inactivated  ·  2683 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're right.

thinks

The events that caused Merc to kill their prototype program in 1999 kinda falls into the former, but it wasn't a new science by that point. They just fucked up badly.

Not that those cars looked weird.

kleinbl00  ·  2683 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yikes. I had forgotten about that.

I'm a fair-weather fan at best but what I recall from the era was that F1 had basically become a lawyerfest where dumb shit like this had become de rigeur and the fans were all WTF because (1) Schumacher won all the time (2) everything was boring AF (3) the only way anything got mixed up a little was when F1 gave out penalties like candy without explaining a single goddamn thing. And then when the 2008 crisis hit and everyone lost money and Toyota and Honda and BMW all bailed they were all "hey let's change shit up a lot" and that kind of killed a few things.

But I mean they're so far removed from "cars" at this point that I have a real hard time caring.

user-inactivated  ·  2683 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Yikes. I had forgotten about that.

It's why I never bought into the "Mark Webber is unlucky" meme. Sure, he got hit by a car at his own charity bike race. But Webber walked away in '99. That's insane.

    Honda

Poor bastards. Withdrew their name, then Brawn went on to dominate that year.

    Toyota

They spent a shit load of money to suck. IIRC, over a fucking billion dollars in the project's life time. Tumbled down the ranks the whole time. Google says they spent at least $400,000,000 in 2008. Only came in 5th.

    But I mean they're so far removed from "cars" at this point that I have a real hard time caring.

I used to wake up at 3am to watch F1.

Now I might be bothered to watch the 24 hours. This year, all I've done is watch the live timing updates from Indy. Crapped out on even that when Fernando did likewise.

Just picked a PS3, though. You better believe I'm driving a VW Bus around the Ring later tonight.

kleinbl00  ·  2683 days ago  ·  link  ·  

$57m a point.

I would close the shit out of that project.

Wipeout HD is the shit, by the way. All the drama of F1 with guns, lasers, mines and antigravity.

user-inactivated  ·  2683 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've never played any Wipeout. Will probably give it a shot, though, since you like it so much.

I'm picturing podracer.

We're waffling between a ps4 and a switch as our next console purchase. Work has been shit lately, but that comes with lots of OT.

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We have to unlock Nordschleife in this game. But first we have to unlock the event that unlocks the map. Shit.

kleinbl00  ·  2683 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Podracer definitely stole from Wipeout but had to be much more slavish to what Lucas wanted. Wipeout is 100% its own thing, and has been for 20 years.