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user-inactivated  ·  1085 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: December 14, 2016

The nice thing about Star Wars is that it's a universe so many people are familiar with and are excited about. While it takes away some world building aspects for the GM, it makes it slightly easier for players to get immersed in the game, especially if they're new to pen and paper games.

I'm still surprised I have yet to pick up Pathfinder. I honestly think 3.5 is the best D&D ruleset by far. It had the perfect level of depth and detail without getting too bogged down. 4th ed was awful. 5 has felt bland. The more I think about it, the more I think I might need to give Pathfinder a shot.





Devac  ·  1085 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    The nice thing about Star Wars is that it's a universe so many people are familiar with and are excited about.

Perhaps. I have to say that the games you mentioned give a lot of the setting to play with, that's for sure. But as someone who mostly GMs… meh. Star Wars always struck me as a tale of few people in a big galaxy that works as the background, but there already are maaaaaaany established people to go around. I made myself a challenge: write a basic plot for Star Wars game. Afternoon later I had a lot of crumpled paper and some generic adventure that could likely be solved by a lone Jedi made for mind-tricks. To contrast that I need maybe ten minutes come up with a good background for Star Trek adventure. Because you can do nearly anything and there's a good chance that if there's some good reason for moral, ethical, military or cultural conflict it will stick. Even adventures in human space can be interesting with some tinkering. I just can't do anything when at the same time I can point to the setting reason why X can't happen or why Y would be dealt with by Z-group that are dedicated to the cause. Which is 99% of Star Wars after doing even the most basic research, as it turned out for me.

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I've developed certain distaste for it, to a point where I have stopped making SW references completely. Sometime ago I was talking on r/rpg and said something along the lines of "this is the major weakness of people thinking that toppling the Evil Ruler of the Setting will make everyone just turn around. That's the reason why the Lawful-Evil types have hierarchy! When Emperor Palpatine was killed, surely all of their galaxy-spanning military didn't just make a turn and joined rebels because there was someone next in line." to end-up having dozens of people saying stuff like "Well, actually he wasn't killed; it was a replica of him and Palpatine was resurrected in some tank of liquid made out of force, spice and everything nice!" and even more links to wookiepaedia :/.

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    The more I think about it, the more I think I might need to give Pathfinder a shot.

I don't fully share your opinion on 3.5, but that's the matter of preference. The worst thing that anyone I know and/or played with had to say about it was "it mixes with 3.5 in my head too much and I don't think I want to try getting used to a slightly different system when there's one I already know really well". On the upside, GMs usually remarked that it was somewhat easier for them to make more balanced encounters and add various 'traps' when they wanted to make enemies have the turf advantage. That all said, to no-one I quoted or referenced D&D was their first or main system. It could prove to be annoying to you, I will no deny that. But I would encourage you to try it. Even if you would not find it to your liking, porting it back to 3.5 is not going to be some impossible task (although it can destroy some particular build, but aside of munchkins that's hardly a problem to anyone).

Oh, and sorry for 'bailing' on the story thread. I don't know if I'm sick again or what, but this whole weekend it was exhausting to even go to the kitchen and make some food. This stream of consciousness post took me nearly an hour to write and I already feel sleepy. :/

user-inactivated  ·  1085 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pfft. Whoever you're talking to doesn't know their Star Wars all that well. Were there Palpatine clones? Sure. Maybe. Thankfully that was retconned after Disney bought the property. The Empire didn't topple right away either and there were generals and politicians to fill in the power vacume. It took the rebel alliance another five years or so before they could capture Coruscant and even then there will still remnants of the Empire to deal with. That said, the EU was an utter mess between the novels and the comics, so it's kind of nice the universe is getting started with a clean slate (though I hear the Marvel comics are quickly making a mess of things again).

That said, the universe is HUGE. It would be so easy to create a story that never even comes within smelling distance of any of the main characters. Anyone who doesn't probably wasn't trying too hard in the first place.

As for the thread? You're fine on bailing. You gotta see to life first. It'll still be there if you ever want to pick it back up. :)

Devac  ·  1085 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Whoever you're talking to doesn't know their Star Wars all that well.

    That said, the universe is HUGE. It would be so easy to create a story that never even comes within smelling distance of any of the main characters. Anyone who doesn't probably wasn't trying too hard in the first place.

I'll bite: what would you rec,omend to get into the SW lore lr story? I'm not going to le, the setling or the movies never really gripped me (Star Trek TNG for lyfe, yo ;P) but if there's something that could really get into my head… that would be asweome. rob05c recommended to me a tonne of cool superhero stories, movies and comic books. As a result, I'm much less biased toward that whole gerne and started to actually enjoy them. A year ago I would find it preposterous that some thing about "guys with capes, underpants on top of spandex, and always correct morals brawling over New York" could carry any depth or story. Now I'm that much wiser and feel like I was missing out

Thans in advance, feel free to respond at any time. I actually don't think like Il be able to respond or come on Hubski fora few days. I feel even worse than yesterday and can;t seem to even focus my eyes on anything.

user-inactivated  ·  1084 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'll think of some good stories. But . . .

    Thans in advance, feel free to respond at any time. I actually don't think like Il be able to respond or come on Hubski fora few days. I feel even worse than yesterday and can;t seem to even focus my eyes on anything.

Does your college have a nurse or doctor you can see? If you're feeling worse, you should get that checked out, especially with what's going on with your brother.