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OftenBen  ·  2679 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Return of Lesser Evilism [Matt Taibi]

    figure out a way to change the system itself,

I voted Johnson/Weld





user-inactivated  ·  2679 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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OftenBen  ·  2677 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    that certainly didn't help change the system,

Third party candidates were more popular than ever before. Gary Johnson got 4 million votes

Hillary got 15, Bernie got 12. That's closer than ever before. Maybe one day, there might be a choice between left boot and right boot.

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kleinbl00  ·  2678 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You are hereby banned from making any jokes within the Venn diagram of "Trump" and "foreign policy."

OftenBen  ·  2678 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What does it say that my conscience voted for 'what is Aleppo?' over literally everything else?

kleinbl00  ·  2678 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That you think ignorance is the same thing as innocence?

OftenBen  ·  2677 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pardon me for still allowing such a silly thing as an ideal to guide my actions in the face of the obvious pragmatic choice.

user-inactivated  ·  2677 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I didn't vote for Nader in 2000, but I had friends who did. Your hands won't feel so clean after four years.

OftenBen  ·  2677 days ago  ·  link  ·  

They don't feel clean now. They stopped feeling clean the minute I cast my first vote.

kleinbl00  ·  2677 days ago  ·  link  ·  

  Let's examine this statement:

    What does it say that my conscience voted for 'what is Aleppo?' over literally everything else?

You are stating in no uncertain terms that you feel that Gary Johnson, through his ignorance of foreign policy, will therefore provide a better standpoint on complicated issues such as Syria by virtue of his lack of knowledge.

You are literally arguing that ignorance of an issue is better than knowledge of an issue for handling an issue.

You are advocating ignorance for its own sake.

No, that's not true. You're arguing ignorance because you're so far up your own ass that the only thing you can see anymore is your own dudgeon, the only fight worth having is spite for spite's sake, the only position worth having is the minority one, a plague on both your houses, everyone is wrong except you because fuck the world.

Take it from someone who's been there: bitterness is not moral authority, no matter how much you want it to be. So when you have these little discussions? You're basically saying "you're wrong because I hate you."