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comment by OftenBen

    Are you saying that the only route to changing minds in some domains is to shame or otherwise stigmatize?

No. I'm saying that with regard to almost any given issue, there will be incompatibilities in what each side considers a 'solution' because of fundamentally different beliefs about the universe and morality. Abortion is an easy one because there's no argument against comprehensive, fact based sex education and easy access to prophylactics that isn't based in a moral stance against people having sex in the first place.