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b_b  ·  2899 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: If Uber drivers were employees, they'd be owed at least $730 million

Am I being trolled? Uber is a reverse robin hood libertarian wet dream.





galen  ·  2899 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It works just fine in a socialist economy.

b_b  ·  2898 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Asserting something doesn't make it true, FYI. One of sanders' main tenets is a higher national minimum wage. Letting companies not pay the wage by designating workers as 'contractors' is a sure fire way to defeat a minimum wage in one second, the same way 'right-to-work' legislation kills unions' power. Why can't McDonald's call the fry kid a contractor, and better yet make him buy his own fryer and potatoes? Uber only works in a situation where the government can't or won't exert regulatory control. That may be ok by you, but it sure as shit is the exact opposite of socialism.

snoodog  ·  2898 days ago  ·  link  ·  

A higher minimum wage still affects contractors. Really what we should be doing is removing incentives for companies to hire people for less than a full work week. In fact we should DE-incentivize part time employment and either only allow a certain % of employees to be part time or make it mandatory for companies to have to guarantee 40 hrs of work to employees if they want it. Or we could just make part time employees no exempt from obamacare penalties that would probably be the most effective incentive.

Uber drivers really are pretty classic examples of contractors though. They make their own hours, work as much and as little as they want and bring their own tools. I think many of the construction contractors have a better claim at not being contractors than uber drivers do.

b_b  ·  2898 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Correction: a higher minimum wage should affect contractors. If the government allows companies to chronically underpay by classifying workers as contractors or any other ridiculous thing, and then only takes action by settling for pennies on the dollar, then what's the point of a minimum wage or any other disincentive? A law is only as good as its enforcement, and the Ponzi scheme that is uber only exists because we've made a collective choice not to enforce labor laws (never mind the myriad transpiration regulations).

wasoxygen  ·  2898 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    a higher minimum wage should affect contractors

It's gonna be great when a single mom can start earning some real money cleaning houses, maybe even more than professional maid services charge.

wasoxygen  ·  2213 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The link expired before b_b had a chance to explain how forcing a single mom to charge more for cleaning houses is going to help her out.

    I'm a single mom trying to make a living to provide for my three kids. My two kids goes to school until 3:30 and my little one is 9 months old. I could clean a house with my baby with me, do shopping or babysit at my home. I live in lake view trailer homes on textile and Bunton. Please give me a call if you need any other jobs you can give me.
galen  ·  2898 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Asserting something doesn't make it true, FYI.

Oh, good, I was confused. Thanks.

A minimum wage doesn't apply to the self-employed. In other news, water remains wet.

user-inactivated  ·  2898 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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galen  ·  2897 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Calling Uber contractors "self-employed" is a sham. They work for Uber.

Why's that?