This is so surprising
Remember how ridiculous it is that university students are afraid of trump supporters though. Definitely no reason for them to be afraid. No reason at all.
I don't really think it's fair to see all Trump supporters as people who would do this. I definitely think it's a bad idea to just get rid of the chalk, because that doesn't make the supporters go away. It just makes them feel wronged and if anything more supportive.
No definitely not all trump supporters are like this. But there are enough to be scared of (see the poll results in another comment of mine in this post). Like with Muslims, I think go after the preacher that's radicalizing them.
None of what you quoted from those polls asked Trump supporters if they were in favor of actually going out and killing minorities. Or even threatening to kill. I live among plenty of dumb rednecks with bullshit views, but I've only ever had to report one whom I can only hope is being monitored. Even that guy would never have the guts to do anything, they are all incredibly weak people. Still have to report him though because ya can't really play around with that. The thing is these people were around before somebody wrote Trump in chalk. They were around before Trump even started running for the nomination. What these students are upset about is their false sense of security being lifted. So for people who had that feeling lifted long ago or for people who never had the luxury of having a false sense of security it does seem silly to get upset at chalk drawings.
Edit: nevermind. I've had PMs with enough lieutenants of the Fempire to know that the goal isn't discourse, it's discord... and to know that the troglodytes left aren't in on the joke, they're part of it. I feel foolish for not seeing the pattern.
This one was an act of terrorism, the other one is just intimidating speech. The fact is, more white supremacists and neo nazis support trump than any other presidential candidate. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html The P.P.P. poll asked voters if they thought whites were a superior race. Most Republican primary voters in South Carolina — 78 percent — disagreed with this idea (10 percent agreed and 11 percent weren’t sure). But among Mr. Trump’s supporters, only 69 percent disagreed. 70 percent of Mr. Trump’s voters in South Carolina wish the Confederate battle flag were still flying on their statehouse grounds. 38 percent of them wish the South had won the Civil War Nearly 20 percent of Mr. Trump’s voters disagreed with Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation, which freed slaves in the Southern states during the Civil War. Being afraid of trump supporters is rational behaviour if you're gay, lesbian, black, brown, transgender or any other disliked minority group. Data from Public Policy Polling show that a third of Mr. Trump’s backers in South Carolina support barring gays and lesbians from entering the country.
Edit: nevermind. I've had PMs with enough lieutenants of the Fempire to know that the goal isn't discourse, it's discord... and to know that the troglodytes left aren't in on the joke, they're part of it. I feel foolish for not seeing the pattern.
Yea! Let's put all the Trump supporters in concentration camps. Wait! There really are Muslim terrorists, let's put them in the camps as well! Oh yea, most domestic terrorist are Christians, guess we should put them in as well... Or we could just accept that there are dangerous people of every creed and not be reactionary babies every time we don't get to live in our perfect safe space. Yes it is ridiculous to demand protection from speech you don't like. I find the college going elite of this generation frightening, their cult of victemhood fascism is going to be bad news when they end up in charge, all the same I'm not asking anyone to shield me from their plantive whining.
don't worry statistically it's very unlikely I'll be in charge of anything e: it's funny to me that that seems to "frighten" you but a trump supporter trying to blow up a mosque doesn't illicit much I mean maybe it does and you just didn't say but that comment being the one you feel the need to take a stand on speaks to me in an interesting way
I wasn't worried about you, I'm worried about the kids at Yale and Harvard. I'm not taking a stand for Trump, I'm taking a stand for freedom of expression and the right of all people to hold their own beleifs no matter how odious I might find them. You can be sure that you, me, them, everybody is part of a creed, religion or minority that someone else would gladly supress or even eliminate if they had the chance. As much as the children at Emory want to live Trump free there are people who would like to live without gays, blacks, or liberals. Picking who gets to talk and who doesn't is a perilous exercise and it's generally hardest on those with the least power and enfranchisement. Trump's desire for safe places is just as odious as that of the Emory kids. His proposed changes to lible laws would be a shield to anyone who can afford good leagal representation.
I don't think cgod put it well, but I think he is saying that it's dangerous to use selective speech control as a means to build a better world. It always backfires as it is a key of minority rights and the ability to promulgate change, and no one can exercise selection well. It is a solution that eventually makes problems of equal scale and suffering, which is scary. I don't think those students ought to be mocked. It doesn't help anyone.
Yea! Lets make up stuff that PrettyIceCube never said. I don't think trump supporters need to be in a concentration camp at all. Trump shouldn't be allowed to run on a platform that's encouraging terrorism though. Same as how Muslim preachers that encourage terrorism shouldn't be allowed to preach.
I find it funny that the typical argument of "actions should be judged by their effect on the larger system" when discussing "punching down" but then all that disappears the moment a topic like this comes up, and the system is suddenly hypocritical for lesser sentences for a random guy vs someone in an active terrorist group. Well, no, I don't find it funny, I just find it interesting.
I'm curious what we're missing. Either things are crazy imbalanced against muslims or the "turned out to be inert" bomb turned out to not even vaguely be a bomb. KRON reports 55-year-old William Celli, an admirer of Republican front-runner Donald Trump, pleaded guilty last week to a charge that he attempted to violate the free exercise of civil rights. In exchange for his guilty plea, the Contra Costa County District Attorney’s Office has dropped a charge of making criminal threats as a hate crime. So you've got a racist nutbag shouting he's gonna kill people as they leave the mosque. You get a tip that he's building bombs and you show up. Turns out the self-employed plumber has a lot of pipe lying around and... probably oughtta bomb-squad that shit just to be safe but as it turns out it's just pipe. I mean... hate crime for sure. "violating the free exercise of civil rights" seems weak but I reckon that if they could have made the "bomb" thing stick, it woulda stuck. DEFINITELY would have made a lot more news had it been a muslim man threatening Pentecostals but I'm not entirely certain we're dealing with Carlos the Jackal reborn here.A California man charged with possessing an explosive device and threatening to kill Muslims will spend 90 days in jail and serve three years probation after accepting a plea deal.
Celli, a self-employed plumber, made a series of xenophobic, Islamophobic and pro-Trump Facebook posts in the months leading up to his arrest.
I would like to think if they are claiming an explosive device was inert it's not because it was actually empty pipes. What I could buy is that maybe he knew the device wouldn't work and that he was making it to throw into a crowd just to scare them. I still think that's extremely fucked up even if the damage is all psychological. Even if that was the case I think he should get a lot more than 90 days.
That's what "inert" means in bomb-squad talk: "not a bomb." "inert weaponry" means "it looks like a weapon but isn't." And here we are in complete agreement.What I could buy is that maybe he knew the device wouldn't work and that he was making it to throw into a crowd just to scare them. I still think that's extremely fucked up even if the damage is all psychological. Even if that was the case I think he should get a lot more than 90 days.
Alright, that makes more sense. When you said pipe lying around I didn't figure you meant pipe dressed up to look explosive. Mainly I think he should get more because it was would hopefully detract people from copying the guy. On the other hand maybe if that is what happened they made a point not to tell the media every detail so as to detract people from copying... And here we are fucking everything up.
Should trying and failing to make a bomb really be a lesser crime then trying and succeeding to make a bomb? If it was a Muslim man police would have shot and killed him. White terrorist lives and gets only 90 days in jail.
Edit: nevermind. I've had PMs with enough lieutenants of the Fempire to know that the goal isn't discourse, it's discord... and to know that the troglodytes left aren't in on the joke, they're part of it. I feel foolish for not seeing the pattern.
Good job defending a literal terrorist buddy.