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hyperflare  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: 'Body Hacking' Movement Rises Ahead Of Moral Answers : All Tech Considered : NPR

but that's why we're working on manufacturing donor organs with the recipient's own genetic code, those should in theory not be rejected, because they actually share all biomarkers (which donated kidneys never do), and they don't come with their own immune cells to sensitivize your immune system.





kleinbl00  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There's your theory again.

I'd like to point out that this started with a discussion of shoving electrodes into bodies because yay transhumanism, and you're now arguing that my position is invalid because, in theory, we'll one day be able to clone kidneys.

Not the same.

Transhumanists don't want perfect organ reproduction. They want bluetooth blood monitors. So are we going to genetically engineer bluetooth blood monitors? Shit, Dr. Frankenstein if we can do all that, we probably don't need to.

This whole Tetsuo Body Hammer aesthetic comes from machine fetishism and will cling to any little gibbet of technohope in order to defend the dream. But it's not based on knowledge or empirical science. Bioengineering is a dreary fucking science where you know, as a fundamental, easily-proven maxim, that whatever you build the body will reject because the body has had billions of years of evolution to do just that. And that doesn't make it a futile exercise, and it doesn't make it a task to ignore, but it does temper the Robocop ambitions of anyone that's ever vivisected an implanted sheep.

Not sure what "we" you're referring to but "I" decided to do other things with my life because "I" got to see reality rather than fantasy.

hyperflare  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

oh, I agree about body mods. Borderline suicidal, in my view. In my eyes, not really transhumanism, as that's about "freeing" people from natural constraints, not showing off you hot new 'ware. It's not a technology that's available yet. What those guys do is basically fancy piercings.