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comment by RicePaddy

I'm struggling to understand your point of view.

Surely the ground on which to weigh the 'value' of an idea is the argument you use to back it up? You seem to be claiming that one idea is inherently more valuable than another idea, without even taking the 'framework' into account. It just seems like saying "you are wrong because I said so" rather than saying "you are wrong because of x,y,z" and building an argument from there.

Note: I've just gotten back from taking time off of Hubski, and it seems that some more drama occurred which I wasn't aware of. Maybe in that context this statement would make more sense. In any case, I'm just addressing your statement as I see it.





khjuu  ·  3174 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ehh, it's probably that I didn't express myself well.

My point is that if arguments around free speech or keeping an open mind start to be in and of themselves justifications for certain views to be expressed on a platform, that platform then has to accept literally EVERYTHING that isn't active harassment, because everyone can whine equally about how other people aren't being open minded when they are told how toxic their views are.

As such, I think it's important to be ruthlessly opposed to such arguments, because they're the quickest way for a community or platform to lose all control over content.

RicePaddy  ·  3174 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks for the clarification! I now see that I agree with you for the most part.

It's definitely an awkward situation for Hubski as a platform. I mean, at the end of the day, Hubski should be able to do as it likes. It's hosting the content, and if the powers that be don't like certain things they should be able to remove them. That's life. I think we're on the same page this far anyway.

Hubski-ers interacting with other Hubski-ers is a really difficult situation and I guess it really depends on the user. One thing I really don't agree with though is outright name calling. I've seen it happen a handful of times here where people jump straight to accusations without even addressing the actual idea, or even trying to back up their accusation. I mean, there's a big difference between "you're racist because x", and just "you're racist".

I don't know if I articulated myself very well, but I guess the TL;DR is: don't hate, discuss.