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shiranaihito  ·  3198 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Post-Capitalism Has Begun

Look into the idea of DROs, which I brought up earlier.

    I still don't get how, in Anarcho-capitalism, people would have any chance against corporations exploiting both environment and population

You do understand that right now it's supposed to be our benevolent slave-masters' job to prevent "corporations" from doing that? How's that working out for us so far? Not that well, and that means we wouldn't be any worse off in that regard without rulers, which means the idea doesn't work as an argument against.. freedom.. :D (see the absurdity?)

So if you want to compare our current societies to what might happen without rulers (i.e. in AnCap), imagine all the differences between enslavement and freedom and try to figure out which would be preferrable to us - the ones that are currently being enslaved.

If people woke up to seeing that they should not have rulers, do you think they'd figure out a way to resist would-be rulers if necessary?





deepflows  ·  3198 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I get that. I hope. My scepticism does not really stem from any delusions about the current state of affairs.

I just find it incredibly hard to envision a scenario where getting rid of politicians wouldn't just mean replacing them with different, more openly corporate rulers in anarcho capitalism. "People will figure something out" may just be true, but on the other hand, corporations consist of people, too. People who aren't dumb either and who would be in quite the advantaged position.

I really don't want to argue how you're wrong and I'm right (I think I do that too often). I just suspect that I won't be able to be convinced that more capitalism is the solution any more than I could convince you that we need to leave capitalistic principles behind as much as possible.

shiranaihito  ·  3198 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I just find it incredibly hard to envision a scenario where getting rid of politicians wouldn't just mean replacing them with different, more openly corporate rulers in anarcho capitalism

It's like you didn't even read my message. What part of people resisting would-be rulers because they don't accept rulers anymore do you find incredibly hard to envision?