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kleinbl00  ·  3210 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: America's struggle

An Italian who comes to America has an accent. His children don't. They can oppress the Germans.

A German who comes to America has an accent. His children don't. They can oppress the Chinese.

A Chinese who comes to America has an accent. His children won't. They can oppress the Mexicans.

A Mexican who comes to America has an accent. HIs children won't. They can oppress the blacks.

And the fucked up thing is the blacks have been here longer than any of them.

All of the above except the Chinese pass as white as soon as they lose the accent. The Chinese? Well, "asian" isn't exactly an unoppressed minority but asians have only been grossly mistreated and taken advantage of in the United States. They've never been out-and-out owned. Meanwhile, the Reconstruction south wasn't slavery but it sure as hell was Apartheid and baseball went color a mere six years before television so it's not like the US has a storied history of color-blindness. But that's okay because, you know, Bill Cosby.

There's a difference between "stop perpetuating the stereotype" and "stop getting shot by cops." No one is denying correlation; we're arguing that it's a long goddamn way from 100%.





Grendel  ·  3210 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Just so you know, Italians and Mexicans are not universally recognised as white even today (this is the first time I talk to someone who thinks of Mexicans as white). The Irish were sold as slaves in the hundreds of thousands. Chinese people could also end up being slaves, and in general were second class citizens at best.

It's fucking sad how you feel the need to downplay the misfortunes of other groups just so you can cling to the belief that blacks are the most oppressed, the biggest victims, the quintessential minority. Even some members of the black community are getting sick and tired of this attitude, and that's saying something! The very people who risk getting shot by the cops by virtue of their skin colour are saying "stop blaming everything on racism, and start fixing yourselves."

_refugee_  ·  3209 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Just so you know, Italians and Mexicans are not universally recognised as white even today

Cool. Last time I checked tho we were talking about 'Murrica. Fuck yeah!