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user-inactivated  ·  3335 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Occupy Burning Man: Class Warfare Comes to Desert Festival - Bloomberg Business

Cumol

I'd be interested to here what you have to say though, the article finishes with one of the people on the board for BM talking about the all inclusiveness idea they try to promote. I can't see it mattering much if they are in a private campsite. Just like staying at a gated resort in another country you miss out on a lot of opportunities to experience the culture.





Cumol  ·  3335 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Radical inclusion means that everyone is welcome.

We had a HUGE discussion about radical inclusion in the Israeli community. Partially because people were asking what would happen if we have massive amounts of "Arsim" coming in. It is not an easy discussion.

Would you radically include a Nazi? Somebody who ideologically wishes for your death?

Fact is, a burn is an amazing place to let people from all classes, races, ideologies meet in a politically neutral area. I was the only arab between 3000 jewish burners and I felt that I did have a huge impact on the people I met.

On the other side, people who do not respect the rest of the 10 principles are not welcome. In the case of the rich camps they lack participation and de-commodification. Putting up a gated community is against the 10 principles. Participation goes both way. You participate in other things and let others participate in whatever you are doing. Its not about radical inclusion in the end.

I don't think that the principles should be changed. Keeping them the way they are now lets people discuss them and actually think about them, which might even transfer into their day to day life.

user-inactivated  ·  3335 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What does "Arsim" meant to you? The link makes it sound like a gangster or a pimp?

Cumol  ·  3335 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Israel is known for its psytrance scene. Doing illegal psytrance parties (called "nature" parties) is something very common and there are dozens of those every weekend.

I love those parties, except that most of them are a bunch of bros taking acid on a Friday night, drinking heavily, destroying nature,leaving loads of shit behind and not caring about it.

The weird thing is, they don't feel ashamed about this. Quite contrary, they feel proud that they were able to do this mess and get away with it.

As if they were smarter than the rest of people in this matter. This is a social trait that is very common in Israel, no idea where it originated from...

Complexity  ·  3335 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sounds like end of burn bro's, shirt cockers, playa pissers, moopers and the like to me.