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simbha  ·  1971 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Life Without Police: “This is how it’s supposed to be. We feel safe.”

I've been in the "ghettos" and I'll tell you their no fun

Except for the gangsters there who use a gun

You'll get shot unless you make a funny pun

Just kidding, so you better run

In all honesty, more people die from gang violence than from police, sooooooo





rob05c  ·  1971 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    more people die from gang violence than from police

That's an unverifiable guess. No one knows how many people are killed by police every year.

But let's look at what we do know.

The nationalgangcenter.gov site says:

    The total number of gang homicides reported by respondents in the NYGS sample averaged nearly 2,000 annually from 2007 to 2012.

The washingtonpost.com article I linked above says:

    That number – which only includes self-reported information from about 750 law enforcement agencies – hovers around 400 “justifiable homicides”

The site fivethirtyeight.com investigates a sample and says:

    about 1,000 deaths per year.

This guy created a database from all the police killings he could find in 2011. His count is:

    police officers in the United States shot 1,146 people, killing 607.

So, with incomplete data, it does seem likely (but uncertain and unverifiable) that "more people die from gang violence than from police." However, the ratio is not terribly high.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  1971 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I suspect a lot of unrelated an unexplained deaths might be labeled "gang-related" if the person "looks like he might be in a gang" though.

JackTheBandit  ·  1971 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The Police cannot solve the problem from which gang violence arises. The police are a maintenance tool, not creators of culture, specifically economic relationships in America compounded racism from the country's inception.

simbha  ·  1971 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    The Police cannot solve the problem from which gang violence arises. The police are a maintenance tool, not creators of culture, specifically economic relationships in America compounded racism from the country's inception.

Catching a gang member and throwing them in jail for an extended period of time is honestly for the best for everyone (Except the gang itself)

I went to a magnet school in the ghettos for middle school (They'd be shutdown if they didn't do that stuff) People got jumped daily, people with red and blue bandannas ran everywhere, often picking fights with each other and many of those kids did things they shouldn't do

It was so bad, that me, a person who never ever racially stereotyped, nor even knew any of them, in elementary school went to purposfully avoiding black people and scary looking mexicans (I'm more than a bit ashamed of that, but it's true)

I'm not one for goverment spending but if for one thing those kids need to feel loved to keep them away from gangs and other bad stuff