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nowaypablo  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Testing the Potential Objective Reality of the Subjective DMT Experience

Take your time, do your research.

After doing actual research, watch this movie so you can pick out the bs. I also suggest the Joe Rogan podcast, which is downright hilarious if its your style, and the main dude Joe Rogan has done DMT almost a dozen times, as well as Ayahuasca, Peyote, and everything in between.





blackfox026  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This isn't a dig at you, but I can't stand Joe Rogan. I've listened to his podcast multiple times, but I find him completely obnoxious and devoid of any substance. He's strikes me as a guru for Affliction shirt-wearing stoners seeking psychedelics out so they can earn themselves badge of honor they can show their friends to prove that they've really been there, man. I think he first rubbed me the wrong way when he first started preaching Rick Strassman's hypothesis--the idea that DMT is released when dreaming, and is responsible for near-death experiences--as fact, resulting in my having to correct this every fucking time anyone in the vicinity started talking about DMT. It didn't help when he had Bill Burr on (who is absolutely hilarious, and a thousand times the comic Rogan is) and barely let him get a word in.

It's frustrating as hell. If you really want to listen to a DMT guru, listen to some of the Terence McKenna talks on youtube. He was probably insane, but he intelligent, well-spoken and fascinating, and he's where Rogan got most of his ideas from anyway. I haven't seen The Spirit Molecule yet, but I've listened to several of the interviews featured on it and they've been good so far. Rick Strassman's book, which the movie is named after, is also a really good place to start.

nowaypablo  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

He's daft, that's for sure. His stand-up comedy is even more unbearable. But, I loved his podcast for the guests, again naming Joey Diaz, and I suggested it cause he just talks about DMT a lot and you gotta admit he's goddamn enthusiastic.

I'm pretty sure I first really heard about it from him actually, at least that was the case with Ayahuasca, so for me it was still very intriguing. Again, that's why I stressed that actual knowledge be acquired before watching that or the Spirit Molecule :D You'll get what I"m saying when you watch the film.

I need to learn more about Strassman. McKenna, however, is my favorite psycho. I don't care about his crazy, the guy was a character that will go down in modern social history as a thinker for the ages. I think we can easily have a rich discussion on his stuff alone.

havires  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wasn't there a post on Ayahuasca recently? I'll have to go read up on it too. Thanks... Do you have a link on hand for Rogan's podcast?

theadvancedapes  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Wasn't there a post on Ayahuasca recently?

Yup, here is the post. I've been doing a lot of research on this lately. If you want any suggestions for academic papers/books, let me know!

havires  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks man, I've never done it and like I stated before I don't really have any interest in anything harder than marijauna and maybe shrooms...

theadvancedapes  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Neither have I. However, these drugs appear to have ritual/spiritual/religious properties. Clearly there is a lot of misinformation out there about their nature. From what I've read, we have no idea what this experience is yet.

blackfox026  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If you're interested in more research, MAPS held a conference back in 2013 in which they invited psychedelic researchers from a variety of fields to come and speak. They've hosted the videos online here. If you look under "Ayahuasca Track," you can see the talks specifically about ayahuasca. I haven't seen most of them since I spent most of my time checking out the interdisciplinary and clinical tracks, but what I did see was fascinating. Dennis McKenna was pretty good.

havires  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'll second Pablo, papers please.

nowaypablo  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'll take some of those academic papers!

nowaypablo  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The best episodes by far are the ones with Joey Coco Diaz, who is by far the most entertaining man alive, and my personal idol of unapologetic, raw humanity. he's a trip, no pun intended. About DMT though, a quick google search gave me this but I don't know if it's any good :/

havires  ·  3779 days ago  ·  link  ·  

alright ill have to check it out later. thanks man.