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comment by _refugee_

    I think there is a tendency to discount the poet that happens to be a musician or the musician that happens to be a poet, which is silly because the two often coexist so beautifully.

Sure, I'll give you that.

I actually don't know how many poets would include Cohen, if asked, but I think that may be as much a result of "mental typing" - i.e., Cohen writes songs therefore isn't a poet - as in terms of regard - for instance if you asked me to name my favorite rappers I wouldn't include a spoken word poet in there even though theoretically I believe the two genres are very close and you can be very good at both in part because they relate so much. I believe a divide is seen even though in practice that divide may be small or not exist. However, because of the way we label things, they become compartmentalized.

As for being grateful to Cohen for keeping the appreciation of poetry alive, I'll give you a skeptical sure that can't make an argument against the assertion and so therefore is agreeing.





b_b  ·  3579 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Cohen published a book of poetry long before he ever recorded an album (it's out of print now, and kind of a collectors' item). Just sayin'.

_refugee_  ·  3579 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is an accurate fact but my point about "mental typing" still stands - in fact, I think your point only serves to corroborate mine. If you took a street poll about "Who Leonard Cohen was?" I think you would get 9/10 people saying he was a musician or a songwriter over a poet, even despite this fact that he made an attempt in poetry before becoming famous for song.

b_b  ·  3579 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think you would get 5/10 people saying "Who?", 2/10 saying, "Isn't that the Rubenstein's rabbi that we met at their dinner party last month?", and the remaining 3 saying he's a songwriter.

thenewgreen  ·  3579 days ago  ·  link  ·  

HA. I think you are probably right on all counts.