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user-inactivated  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Ignore users newer than X days Part Deux: The Reckoning  ·  

I don't think this is a good idea. The structure of the site means that every new user is already globally ignored, because they have no followers. A primary way for new users to get noticed and to get followers is through the global feed. I think the costs of allowing people to block them during those crucial first few days of membership sends the wrong message, and encourages an insulated culture that seems very antithetical to how I envision hubski.

I see what you're saying that simply having the feature available does not mean that everyone will use it. The problem is, if the feature is available, it's likely that there will be less work done on substantial and effective strategies to integrate new users and prevent junk posts (like ButterflyEffect's suggestion in your other thread). If it happens that this feature becomes popular, especially among the influential users with many followers, it will affect the initial impression users have when they come to the site.

If I'm reading you right, your main complaint is that global is full of junk posts right now. Well, I think my response is 'deal with it.' The natural consequence of a global feed is that it will show the good with the bad. There's a reason they were called "The knights of /new" on reddit. Browsing a global feed is not always pretty, especially when there's an influx of new users. But letting people block all new users entirely throws out the baby with the bathwater in my opinion. We only have a couple days to keep new users interested, and if they feel like their contributions are not being noticed or appreciated, they will not stick around, with good reason.





mk  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Why the suicide?! I liked this user. :/

thenewgreen  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Me too. Bummer.

kleinbl00  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Training wheels. I'm tellin' ya.

mk  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, that's harsh. You never know what's going on behind the scenes. He was a good guy.

kleinbl00  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Having seen (and been the proximate cause of) dozens of QQs over the years, allow me to simply say that while you're right, trends can be spotted.

kleinbl00  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I"m not sure how this entire discussion is anything other than "deal with it." And nobody ever did anything but complain about the knights of /new - they were the trashers of content, the annihilators of anything but memes. There's this notion that a global feed should be crap - rather than holding it to as high a standard as everywhere else.

And that's where this discussion starts to bother me - nobody who's bitching reads global. When I pointed out that global chatter had been broken, mk observed that nobody browses global chatter but me. So here I am, speaking about something I use, that nobody else uses, and everyone is up in arms that my arguments for improving the functionality of that thing you don't use might offend those people you don't interact with.

user-inactivated  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We are all part of this community and this culture, and it's important to structure the site in a way that helps it grow. People having opinions different from yours and expressing them clearly is not bitching, it is simply disagreeing - this is discussion, it is what discussion sites are for.

ButterflyEffect  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    And that's where this discussion starts to bother me - nobody who's bitching reads global. When I pointed out that global chatter had been broken, mk observed that nobody browses global chatter but me. So here I am, speaking about something I use, that nobody else uses, and everyone is up in arms that my arguments for improving the functionality of that thing you don't use might offend those people you don't interact with.

I'm going to stay out of this beyond saying that I'll usually check the global feed once or twice a day to see what I've missed, and frequently use the chatter feature. So you're not quite entirely alone.

NikolaiFyodorov  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I also read global. I agree with what you're proposing.

humanodon  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What! I read it sometimes