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Meriadoc  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Condoleezza Rice, surveillance and torture fan, joins Dropbox board

I've been meaning to get rid of dropbox for a long time now. I never use it anymore because I'm so suspicious of them, and never kept anything valuable in there. Deleted now. Entirely gone. Scouring everything related to it. Telling everyone to do the same.

There is no reason for this. She has no place in that company and can do nothing good for privacy, but opens a world of potential hurt. Absolutely not taking any risks on this one.





am_Unition  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think it all hinges on the idea that she has foreign diplomacy established with the Chinese, a huge market that Dropbox is looking to corner.

Maybe the Dropbox folks will realize that it wasn't such a good idea when she's holding a metaphorical gun to their heads and demanding "redundant server hosting", where the new servers are of course owned and operated by the gud ol' gubmint.

mk  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What's your alternative?

Meriadoc  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  
rrrrr  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's closed source and there are concerns about that. (You can't audit it for privacy, encryption quality or bugs.) But it seems to be the most effective sync tool out there at the moment. I am using it, though if anyone comes out with an equally good open source alternative I would switch.

Meriadoc  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd love an open source alternative. That does bug me about BTS. However, I have much more faith in BitTorrent to handle it well, where security is in their interest, than I do in a company like Dropbox. Of course, never trust a company, so I'd switch to something open in a heartbeat.

Meriadoc  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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insomniasexx  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I loved BitTorrent Sync but it's so glitchy about syncing. I can't figure it out. Did you have any issues with it? I am using Mac (Mavericks) on both computers I was syncing.

I only use BitTorrent Sync / DropBox for moving items from my work computer to my laptop and I need to know that if I drop a folder in there at 5pm when I'm racing to class, it'll be there when I get home. After about 4 times of not having a needed file with me and having to remote in to make a tiny change or grab a PDF I created at work, I got sick of it. Dropbox never fails

Google Drive is also now offering insane prices (15gb free, 100 GB $1.99, 1 TB $9.99, 10 TB $99.99, 20 TB $199.99, 30 TB $299.99) but if privacy is a concern Google may not be the best place. Also, there have been horror stories about people getting locked out of their accounts, etc. Always have your work, especially important stuff, doubled up. For big projects I often have a copy on my laptop, on my work computer, on the work server, and in my DropBox.

Meriadoc  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So far, I've had no problem with BT, and I'm blown away by how quickly everything synced for me. I migrated an entire terrabyte of movies and music through it and everything was there in less than an hour. I was always frustrated with dropbox for not working well with my phone, too, so Sync solved that problem immediately.

humanodon  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Were all the files working? I'm just wondering how it would compare to transferring large amounts of media to another HD (which I've had problems with in the past).

Meriadoc  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yup! I pulled them up in multiple cases to make sure. I haven't tried with .avi's on the phone, mostly because I don't have that much disposable storage, but it worked everywhere else.

humanodon  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Cool. I'll have to check this out, thanks.

user-inactivated  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This seems too good to be true, wow.

Now if only I could persuade my current employers that dropbox is a potential problem.

Meriadoc  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Good luck. With BitTorrent's name attached to it, they won't go near with with a ten foot pole.

rrrrr  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's an unfortunate choice of name from a marketing point of view. Everytime I mention it to someone they react with "Whoa, bittorrent? Isn't that the illegal thing?" Ignorant, I know, but that's how people react. And when I mentioned it to a sysadmin he replied with "We would never allow bittorrent near our systems." I keep having to explain that bittorrent and bittorrent sync are different things.

Meriadoc  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's the same thing with "whoa, torrenting? Isn't that illegal?"

No it's an extremely effective way of spreading data through hosting elsewhere. Trying to explain to companies when they're worried about servers from heavy downloading, when I offer that they should make a magnet link they look at me like I've grown horns.

insomniasexx  ·  3660 days ago  ·  link  ·  

They should market the exact same service (because it's an awesome service) under two names for the two sets of audiences: the geeks (like me) who get off on this tech and the businesses (where the money is) who don't understand or care to understand. +$1m if they come up with a name containing 3 or more technology buzzwords and an acronym to go along with it.

Meriadoc  ·  3659 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Synergy Social Cloud Services & Streaming Media (TM)

am_Unition  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I personally shell out $30 a year for a MediaFire account. It's been a pretty decent gig. Dropbox had smoother implementation, but it just got too big to go unnoticed. MediaFire has upgraded their capabilities significantly as of late.

Edit: From MediaFire's Wiki article

    The site's privacy policy claims the company "may disclose your personal information or any of its log file information when required by law or in the good-faith belief that such actions are necessary to: conform to the edicts of the law or comply with a legal process served on us; protect and defend the rights or property of MediaFire, or visitors of MediaFire; identify persons who may be violating the law, the legal notice, or the rights of third parties; co-operate with the investigations of purported unlawful activities."

Hmmm... : /

DHDGS  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  
user-inactivated  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've had a good experience with SpiderOak. Supposedly it's zero-knowledge encrypted, so that SpiderOak servers do not contain filenames or plain file contents, just the encrypted blocks that your client will read locally.