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_refugee_  ·  3704 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Man Makes Love to Pizza

"We raised them better than that" - come on, who doesn't love a blow job





humanodon  ·  3704 days ago  ·  link  ·  

People that never get good ones?

_refugee_  ·  3703 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sad people.

humanodon  ·  3703 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm down with blowjobs, but I'll say that America seems to have a very pro-blowjob culture. Appetizers are nice, but it's all about the entree.

_refugee_  ·  3703 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Consider my comment more of an attempt to subtly point out slut-shaming. "We raised them better than to give blow jobs." What does that mean? Good girls (or boys) don't give head? Who does that satisfy? Usually I am not so subtle, I like to try new things.

As another example, a friend once told me not to get my nose pierced. He and his male friends had a joke, that girls with nose piercings liked to give head.

It has always puzzled me because I would think that would be a good thing.

humanodon  ·  3703 days ago  ·  link  ·  

_ref_, I used to live in a country where girls are told that if they touch themselves, or enjoy having sex at all, that it means that they're whores. Or if they date foreigners, they're whores. And not "whores" as in sluts, "whores" as in prostitutes . . . who are probably also sluts. I mean, I knew a girl that asked for tissues when she got wet because she thought she wasn't supposed to get wet and that something was wrong.

I'm not saying that slut shaming in America isn't a thing, just that . . . I think American society has a strange relationship with slut shaming. And with jealousy and intimacy and what it is to be human on many, many fronts.

Anyway, sometimes I think it's strange how preoccupied people are with oral sex. Yeah, ok maybe it's "dirty" and that makes it kind of kinky for some people. I dunno, it's like meeting people who have just discovered Chinese food and feel really proud of themselves for trying General Tso's chicken (I was gonna go with crab rangoons, but too easy!). So, I agree. If that's as exotic as people are willing to go, that is sad.

_refugee_  ·  3703 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think we can agree that how most societies approach sex and especially female sex and sexuality is messed up. It being more messed up in a different place doesn't mean we shouldn't try to work against it here. Yes, it's more messed up in that country, but I've also never lived in or been to that country, so of course my frame of reference isn't going to involve that country. My frame of reference, and where I'm going to point out what I perceive of as problems, is pretty much basically this grand ol' U. S. of A.

I don't have solutions for you, or for that country, or even for this country. I guess my speaking up, even on what is admittedly a small internet website where I will mostly be heard by those who already agree with me, is my attempt at a "solution," and we can probably agree it's a pretty feeble one at that. But I'm still going to point out that I don't understand why oral sex is considered shameful or negative by the very people who probably enjoy it. That's my solution for where I am, right now, while I'm here.

humanodon  ·  3703 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Here's my muddled point though: that's a country where there is really next to no anti-slut shaming movement, or slut shaming awareness, sympathy or consideration, but there is growing unrest. What a lot of college aged girls are doing is just going out and doing what they want, since they can't win either way. But, they don't talk about it, except among friends.

Here, there's a whole lot of people talking about slut shaming on both sides of the issue and people are more nervous about sex and having less of it than ever, to boot. To an extent, I think that people should stop talking about what's preventing them from having a good time and just go have a good time. I also think that slut shaming is a symptom rather than the disease.