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user-inactivated  ·  3706 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I'm the Duke University Freshman Porn Star and for the First Time I'm Telling the Story in my Words

    Then I apologize. Misunderstandings happen.

If it was misleading to the extent that it clearly was, I'm at fault. Happy to move on. Just wanted to clear up any confusion.

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Now, I still quibble with your no stigma, no money point. Porn exists because it's in demand. The moral hazard, as it were, may make you earn more than you might otherwise, but take that out and you're still doing better per hour than a waitress. I could quote the rest of your post bit by bit but that's my essential response to all of it. The money's good, and not just because what she's doing is taboo, but also because "people who will fuck on camera" are apparently in demand. I'm not sure removing the stigma would change that -- maybe I'm wrong there.

    The only reason for the money to be any good is the direct risk of being "called a slut and so on."

I can't get past supply filling a demand here. (And yes, the free porn industry is huge and growing; but the subscription porn industry is still a factor for now.)

Would you say that the reason prostitution in certain places is so lucrative is the "red light" stigma? (I ran both sides of the argument by a friend because I'm genuinely confused by our inability to find common ground here and that's the metaphor I got.) With prostitution, I would again go back to demand causing a supply.





kleinbl00  ·  3706 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    The moral hazard, as it were, may make you earn more than you might otherwise, but take that out and you're still doing better per hour than a waitress.

You quote this as a maxim but it's simply not true. Friends of mine once posted on craigslist:

"Wanted: girls to give a yeti a blowjob on camera. There will be pizza."

Three chicks showed up.

On the other hand, a server at a nice restaurant can make a thousand a night.

    I can't get past supply filling a demand here.

Exactly. If there were less stigma, there would be less money. That's why there's such a glut of amateur porn nowadays- the high end has gone away because acceptance has gone up.

    With prostitution, I would again go back to demand causing a supply.

Prostitution is service. Pornography is performance. Prostitution is individualized attention. Pornography is generalized exhibition. There is no comparison.

user-inactivated  ·  3706 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You quote this as a maxim but it's simply not true. Friends of mine once posted on craigslist:

    "Wanted: girls to give a yeti a blowjob on camera. There will be pizza."

    Three chicks showed up.

    On the other hand, a server at a nice restaurant can make a thousand a night.

Oh come onnnn, that's not a rebuttal. I mean, the articles you linked earlier put hard and fast prices on porn work and it was comparable to $1000 a night (which is high for waitresses I've known). I would guess that on the whole porn probably pays better than waiting tables per hour, but not cumulatively -- but if you're a busy college student time's not what you got. We may just have to agree to disagree on the sheer numbers of it.

    If there were less stigma, there would be less money. That's why there's such a glut of amateur porn nowadays- the high end has gone away because acceptance has gone up.

I would change 'has gone away' to 'is slowly going away'. I think you're right here but the pro industry clearly still pays something, whether or not you believe the 800-1000 per shoot number.

kleinbl00  ·  3706 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I mean, the articles you linked earlier put hard and fast prices on porn work and it was comparable to $1000 a night

That was top-of-your-game, billing-at-porn-conventions money. Not "I was featured once for twenty minutes on Youporn" money.

    I think you're right here but the pro industry clearly still pays something, whether or not you believe the 800-1000 per shoot number.

I don't believe this girl is that level of pro. I mean, fuck. She's in NC.

user-inactivated  ·  3706 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Without hard numbers it's impossible to run a true cost-benefit. I would bet she makes somewhere in the 400-500 range, but I haven't a clue.