I think this is one of, if not the singular, best interview/discussion with Obama with respect to learning more about his character and beliefs outside of politics. As he exits the Presidency in the coming month I hope more people give this a listen.
Went to post this, and you beat me to it a year ago.
Needed a mental enema after yesterday's "Pocahontas" uh, gaffe. Are gaffes still a thing anymore?
Regardless of what you thought of the guy, everybody listen to this interview. He speaks with authority, humility, pathos, empathy. If you're a masochist, compare any ten minutes of this interview with any ten minutes from our current Commander in Chief, or any ten tweets for that matter.
Marc Maron is insufferable, though