Potential NSFL if you have a vivid imagination.

So in my effort to start eating healthier in #moralemenagrie I've vastly reduced meat consumption along consuming increasingly less animal products - easing myself in rather than full dive. This route of all dietary routes as a result of a conversation with one of my brothers, user4o4, on the topic of the state of the food industry in general and the benefits of alternative diets. Part of my thoughts driving the switch derived from understanding the rhetoric behind propaganda with relation to ethic history of the Holocaust - industrialized slaughter and testing of/on sentient life, extrapolating organs from their lifeless bodies for everyday personal use, etc. It's hard to tell which I'm talking about here myself as I'm typing, it's that sad: leather jackets or human lampshades, bar soaps from fauna or people. Naturally, it's pretty sickening thinking about it. By extension, the genetic manipulation of fruits and vegetables via GMOs to bloaten them beyond natural proportions, though whether the case of sentience applies or even matters here is bit wishy-washy - albeit slight digression.

So, back to the start. Veganism. Specifically, ethical veganism. The belief of exploiting animals as a commodity in today's industrialized fashion is immoral and/or damaging. This is the basis for the route I took, and frankly the gruesome rhetoric justified itself for me. More so, the idea of environmental non-stability falls in line with my ambiguous philosophy of balance in the world borne of watching too much anime. Until I thought of this: the very development of humans was hinged on the consumption of meat to allow the growth of our brain today. If the of message of ethical veganism stands as is, it's nigh hypocritical considering how they've evolved to develop such a belief. Further, if I'm going to say "Sure, I don't agree with systematic slaughter" to raise my own farm, wouldn't that as well be against the doctrine of animal cruelty for the same purpose - eating, living? I'm not advocating being serial carnivores, merely pondering the limits of a relatively extreme stance. Does this all really necessitate the mass boycott of the meat industry; more to the point, what consists of a viable meat source without stepping on the bounds of immoral sentient slaughter?

sigh Guess I'll have to wait for this.

This bit's more a rant on GMOs as a counter to my fruit bloating point - if you'll endure me for a bonus paragraph.Man's domestication of animals and plants has vastly shaped (clearly) our own world, but also the physical shape of fauna and flora as well. It's no news dogs have been selectively bred from wolves, and we've been selectively breeding crops for better yields and size too. The reality there is we've been doing this for years, just on a micromanaged level at this point. Granted, taking some steps can seriously harm, regulation is advised rather than flat opposition. I think that's it for that bit. As anti-climatic as it was.


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So. A few things to consider, to add to this ethical confusion of yours.

Is comparing the animal food industry to the Holocaust or any other type of genocide pretty hyperbolic? Is it really fair to say the life of one pig is equal to the life of one man when the man had the potential to not only live longer, but contribute so much more to his community?

Is it fair for vegans to decry the animal food industry on environmental grounds and then turn around and criticize the development of GMOs? The very development of GMOs will allow us to yield more food per acre and per gallon of water, allowing us to potentially reduce the amount of farm land used, giving us the chance to put that land to better use, up to and including letting it return to its natural state.

Knowing that to exist is to consume and to consume is to destroy, do you think that you as an individual will eventually find peace both with yourself as well as the world around you by embracing vegan philosophy? There is a great difference between constantly trying to better yourself and burdening yourself with a sense of guilt, inadequacy, and powerlessness. Are you motivating yourself for the right reasons?

Personally, while I do not think I could live a vegetarian let alone a vegan life, I have high respect for people that do. Also, while I've known few vegans in person, the ones I do know are intelligent, articulate, and respectable, just like you are. That said, I have seen people online take veganism to unhealthy logical and philisophical extremes and I think maybe they would have done well if early in their attempts if people told them, "Do your best, but don't become obsessive."


posted by kantos: 906 days ago