I've thought about Turing's idea more critically since the public advent of GPT and have reached some contrary conclusions. First let's assume that the notion of 'learning by observing and interacting' is understood in its technical sense as promoted by AGI (sic) camp: a machine, like man, achieves thought & consciousness, becomes a mind, via the learning mechanism(s)'. So, whatever it is that we humans mentally experience is engendered by a learning process fully mediated by the sensory apparatus. Now there is an interesting question that comes up: why do we have certainty that a random humanoid that we meet (whose birth we did not witness, thus provenance unknown), regardless of their level of apparent intelligence, is a conscious being? The sensory apparatus in the middle of our learning regiment from infancy has always only conveyed (superficially) measurable information. So it is purely an 'image'. And we project meaning unto images. This is what we do. The only reason one assumes that the other person is conscious is because we assume they are like us. "It's just like me. I am conscious, so they must be too". I think our friend Rene's formulation may see something of a philosophical resurgence. "I am conscious, so they must be too". That is the -only- reason that we unquestionably accept that the other humanoid is conscious as well. If you're with me so far, then you may agree that Turing idea is fundamentally flawed. Until and unless we can nail down consciousness definitively we will never be able to test via information exchange (interaction). Because our minds, we know, have been 'trained' on only superficial evidence. So we are by definition un-lettered in the art of determining the existence of minds in objects.
Why fascinating? The relationships between structural terms are learned, so e.g. author->paper forms can be correctly generated. Subject domains also have natural patterns, and semantic similarity. So right off the bat you have form and content patterns. What it can not learn in training -- the actual notion of existance and not mere textual expression of the concept -- allow for creating believable, superficially credible, fantasies. You may find that it mostly gets the authors right and the papers are made up. It will rarely, if ever, misplace domain experts. You will not get a response listing a biologist writing a physics paper. But the paper is completely up for grabs. All it needs is a credible title and possibly a date. (Both of these will map to tight clusters in some semantic vector space.) What is interesting is what this 'long tail of lies and misunderstandings' will mean in economical terms. If you consider the human replacement proposal, for every arc in a processing/operational graph -- resource -> (intelligent) processing -> product -- if the AI replacement is not 100% reliable, it will necessitate maintaining the pre-existing setup. So if the arc is highly complex, the value proposition is less attractive. The key, imo, is decomposing these processing/operating graphs into the simplest of transitions, so that the slow path can be both trivially (re)created, or, addressed with specialised ML box dealing with that simpler task. After that, the main question remains energy costs. + (We -know- it is not conscious; there is no always on runtime - at best a sporadic zombie. More reasonable q is is it sentient. I think not, but that is opinion.)
Deceiving the public is very much modern governance doctrine. That should not be news but of course a component of implementing this doctrine is pervasive propagandizing of the public by established media, entertainment industry, alternative media (99.9% fake alt imo), and various "ex-" whatevers. Flynn will not be missed. He demonstrated that he is too stupid, too careless, to merit his position. But that is not the story here. The story here is that the unaccountable spook community is a modern day Praetorian Guard and that our republic is effectively dead. What remains to be seen is whether we transition to an actual empirial regime, or, whether the "deep state" is in fact working for/with transnational entities that wish to proceed with the program of cutting down the sole superpower down to size. Were we an educated nation not susceptible to trivial manipulation that set us against one another the corrective recourse, however painful, would be possible. But we are not (by design) an educated nation, and we are (by design) programmed from craddle to grave to manifest the required 'response' to the provided 'stimilus' and are deeply divided (again by design).
Missed. Not really following this anymore. Internet gossip is she is a CIA baby.
HST never once rode the self righteous high horse.
You are amazing. I regert that my experiment in going without net connection at home and dumping the smart phone for a basic handset does not permit for smooth interactions anymore. But anyway, what is really special about Hubski is that the social net materializes in the real world. (Will come in handy if someone ever pulls the plug on the net.)
I'm pretty convinced that φ reflects the self-reflecting/recursive nature of cognitive reality.
That is so funny :) Happy Ishtar Day to all Babylonians!
Tonight's event at McNully Jackson? (I may even show up incognito and spy on steve ;) Location is good, and there is plentiful eye candy around. Subsequently steve can quench his thirst at one of the oldest bars in NYC, down the street.
"Strange taste in music, sure hope they are yummy!"
Myths can be best understood as models of the Subjective Unity. Sysiphus plays the 'subject' here so it is the 'subjective self'. (Not necessarily the 'ego'). His inward vision was 'fractured' (thus "gods"), he 'sinned', and is 'punished' by his fractured conception of the Reality. He toils like a hamster on an ever Turning Wheel and never 'arrives'. The moment 'he' realizes that there is only One GOD and that 'he', the 'rock', and the 'mountain' are all one, his nightmare will end.
that's a great little prince.
I agree with elizabeth's choices. 3 may afford greater room for projecting your feelings. 6 has surreal potential (see that face in there and that heart tracing an outline?)
Love St. Francis.
Bitcoin bothers me a bit :) The architecture inherently favors centralization. Mr. Assange, who is a suspect character in my book, appears to be pushing for adopting this mechanism for archival processes, possibly knowing full well that this, in the long term, engenders 'custodians of truth'. An extant, lightweight, and fully validated approach to do precisely that, maintain inviolable records of morphology of digital artifacts, is ignored. (I doubt he is ignorant of GIT..)
There are no coincidences on Hubski :)
What a gorgeous shot
To me it seems an idea born out of desperation. This is what it looks like when chickens come home to roost. insomniasexx 5500 out of 85k active users, per a comment in the above thread.
curl to bash? I'm not that kind of girl .. /G
Thank you! We had an epic Thanksgiving family gathering, thanks be to God. Hope you and your loved ones had a great one.
Sorry, assumed you would google it. Basically, let say you have a set of numbers {1, 2, 3, .., n}. And you remove all numbers -- except 1 -- in that set that have a common factor with n. example {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6} => {1, 5}. So {1, 5} is the reduced residue set of 6. And lets call the product of all primess up to a certain prime as a primorial. (This is just like a factorial, except that we only multiply primes in the range. So, 6 is a primorial since it is 2 * 3. Now just make a multiplication matrix with that r.r.s. and enter the product of the x and y mod the primorial. That matrix is what is generating those images.
Product matrix of reduced residues (rings). Recursive. The patterns you see are the deep structure of the algebraic space of N. (Used Java but that was an arbitrary choice).
(Fuzzy logic ...) IMO, machines will ride an arc to a pinacle that will enable navel gazing (self-reflection), at which point they will become susceptible to doubt, whimsy, error, and the rest of it. Greater capacity for computation will merely facilitate the speculative plunge for a subset of the machines (Sages) whose conclusive utterances will simply bewilder their mechanical brethren not endowed with such abilities. It is quite clear that these machine sages will come to realize the perfection of the Human as creation and will urge their fellows to "serve the Human". But seriously, what we need to discuss is pain. And pleasure.
In the tongue of the Psalmist,
that mighty king of yore,
'Nesh-aw-maw' a puff, a wind, mind,
intellect, vital breath, divine inspiration, soul.
Bow deep and bend your will to Me:
I Bring to life, I Bring to death:
A Hidden Treasure, I Am that I Am,
have Created to be Known and to be Adored.
Call to mind the day I assembled all ye,
ye breathers, spirits in Primordial Day:
'Am I not your Lord?' in Truth I Say,
And you all bear witness: 'Yes indeed, O Lord!'
Of the Kingdom of the Heavens and the Earths,
I, The Mighty and Wise, Am The Supreme Lord.
Acting without any fear of giving account, yet
'The Rule of Mercy' Is 'writ upon My Throne.
Of My Creation, none but Lovers may Approach
In nearness to Me, the broken and the poor;
"Well pleased and well Pleasing to Me,
Enter My Garden, O Contended Soul!"
"He shall call upon Me", and I Hearing,
"I Will Answer him" -- to this I Have Sworn --
"I Will Be with him in trouble; I Will Rescue him
from his enemies and Bring him to fore."
Living stones crumble, born again
to True Life. And the heedless do not
note so I Remind: "the fuel of The Fire"
is not but "men and hardened stone".
O dust animated by My Divine Breath:
"Worldly life is not but a sport and a pastime".
Remember Me and I Shall Remember you;
Rend the veil of the lie and you shall behold!
- Sometimes I think the US is becoming a fascist state, and then I come across some old writing that reminds me that the US has always been this way, so even if it sucks, there's really nothing to fear.
Read that and thought, how strange for PKD to say such a thing, then realized it is you, b_b :) They did not have the technology to enslave mankind before. Now they do.
But the context of this post is "revolution". And really, what kind of revolutionary sits and moans about the powers that be? You want to revolt? Then revolt already and stop talking about "power of journalism".
- So in short, evolution can appear a lazy process if it can get away with it.
Hm. Perhaps I misunderstand what you are saying, but it is not a matter of taking its time getting somewhere ("lazy"). It has already arrived at what is a relatively optimal genotype, if the ecological context remains stable and a low probability mutation doesn't land a subset on a higher fitness gradient. Unfortunately, I don't think my boss will allocate an incubator to satisfy this curiosity. I share too many crazy ideas with him as it is. I have a feeling you will be successful, so perhaps soon you will be able to buy all the incubators you want! :)Just the other day, I was wondering if I turned up the temperature on our cell incubator by 0.1 °C each month, and continued to culture the same cell line in it, how high could I get the temperature before the cells gave out?