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Aye and for this reason punk isn't dead. The group of people I associate with the most at college are exactly this kind of crowd. The difference is that we don't go off the grid, quite the contrary. A lot of us have been moving up the ranks in some organizations at university and have, if anything, been challenging the administration and ourselves to change the way things work. It's not the most "punk" way to do things, in fact, I'm not really how that would be defined. But we tend to align ourselves more with the remnants of punk than other identities."Fuck you and fuck the reasons you do shit you stupid fuck." :)