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oyster  ·  2216 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The path forward on guns

You shared a link about the gun violence restraining orders and then you got into an argument about semantics with somebody who tried to engage you on that thread.

This article, which I assume is what you meant by the one I replied to, is probably the first I've seen about a good compromise on gun control however that part didn't seem to be your main focus. The bits you quoted were about how the author is right that you're reluctant to give gun control people anything because it feels like a slippery slope. With the first point of his plan he freely points out that gun control folks really don't want it because of the whole slippery slope paranoia. So it seemed like you agree with the issue he talks about not necessarily his action plan.

    Here is a comment I made to you, saying that we should be pulling social issues into the conversation

Let's see that comment,

    I think that's a great parallel, and is absolutely the problem. It'd be nice to see someone pull the issues together, and use that to get some decent compromise.

Who ? You want someone else to do it. I was the one who said something of worth in this discussion. All you said was "ya that makes sense somebody should listen to you." The article you posted was about how somebody stopped thinking gun control was the answer. All that stuff is an attempt to move the goal posts and go well ya know it's really mental health that's the issue and somebody else should really do something about that.

    Here is one where I criticized the Florida legislature's actions on this issue.

    Ugh. (Although FWIW an assault weapons ban is stupid.)

You said UGH and then called something stupid. I am a two time college drop out with dyslexia and even I don't think that's quite enough to really make people feel like you actually care or want to do something. My ex spent plenty of time saying ugh and saying things were stupid. What he didn't spend time doing was actually trying to influence change in his favour.

Both reporting on mass shootings and criticizing sales tactics are all well and good but they aren't really about gun control. They are subjects that most sides agree on and more should be done on them. Unfortunately, they tend to get just thrown around as a way to simply derail a conversation instead of something people actually go out and work on.

I think this really gets down to how I feel about this topic. People are tired of just talking and going back and forth waiting for somebody else to do things. Before they did need a compromise, they did need to try and debate with the other side. I don't think they need that anymore though or at least they wont soon. Your government is setting itself on fire and so is the NRA. Nobody really cared about the pro-gun counter marches that happened other than to mock the grown men who felt like intimidating children with their guns. Those are the people speaking on the other side and now that the gun control crowd is making waves you want them to sit down and compromise with you ? Sounds like you missed your opportunity honestly.