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My fundamental problem with Libertarians boils down to one woman. It has been my general experience that you can discuss civil liberties with Libertarians all day. You can heartily agree and shake hands on the principle of the golden rule. But at some point you put forth some form of tragedy-of-the-commons dilemma (healthcare, public safety, infrastructure, courts, you name it) and they lick their thumbs, page through Atlas Shrugged and start pontificating about how greed is good and that people have the right to their own self-determination and basically reveal themselves not to be self-determinists but to be neo-feudalists who think they'll win because they've thought about it the longest.