It sounds like you have a different meaning of discussion. Since this is Hubski, I shan't mock you or quote The Princess Bride. Instead I shall ask you what you want, not what you mean.

You are waiting for something. Is it antagonism? Agreement? Praise? Do you just want to be right? There are other parts of the internet for that.

You claim to have made your point clear. None of us can figure out your point, and we've all said this. We have only heard negatives: you have posited nothing.

Your approach has probably been crafted by growing up online. You walk into an angry room and can't wait for the pile-on. I spent enough of my life in mosh pits to know the type. You have a ton of energy and you need people to take it out of you so you can feel alive.

This is Hubski. We do not work that way. You will become a pariah.

Imagine Hubski is a quiet lounge surrounded by bookshelves. There is no fighting here. There are nice chesterfields. The stand-up ash trays from 75 years ago have been turned into cell phone holders. Cognac sits in a decanter, ice cubes and iced tea for those that need to get back to work soon.

If you have a position, a forward statement about what you seek, then please make it. "Meat is for losers" is not positive -- it's ad hominem. If you cannot boil it down to a single paragraph that does not create a proper discussion, then you have failed to meet the prima facia burden.

You wanna tangle? Take it outside. I won't be joining you.