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AskHubski: Weapon Industry

by speeding_snail · #askhubski
posted 325 days ago · shared by: 4
So, as some of you may know, I am an engineering student. I study to be able to create things from which mankind can benefit. At least, I like to think that this is the case. Evidently some people do not agree with me, otherwise the weapons industry wouldn't exist. However, I was shocked to hear how many people wouldn't think twice about working in the weapons industry. The reason this shocked me was that you know for what your creations will be used, namely threatening and killing people.

So now my question. Assume you have the know how to work in the weapons industry, would you? And why?



by mk 325 days ago  ·  link
Personally, I'd rather not. Actually, I don't think I could. But I think it's going to be a long time before we get rid of war. War is stupid, and it usually comes as the result of a power-hungry few, but until we organize society differently, people will remain convinced that wars are necessary.

After I graduated with my physics undergraduate, the Navy sent me a letter inviting me to become a nuclear sub engineer. They said I didn't even have to shave my hair!

As an aside, I do believe that the more people communicate across boundaries like this, the harder it is going to be to kill us. Imagine if there were a bunch of afghanis here, sharing stories and videos. It's tougher for a government to create an enemy when you know something about them.

by speeding_snail 324 days ago  ·  link
I think that the power to check information and communicate with more people is a good way to at least remove a part of the propaganda machine. The problem is however, that most of the wars nowadays are between countries which are digitally separated. For example, China has its own internet. Israel is also busy to make that a reality. Most "normal" people in Irak, Iran etc don't have computer access as we do. The web is not part of their everyday life. Might be a good thing for some, not so good for others.

Luckily, I won't get an invitation from the Dutch army, since they are busy laying people off :P (and my engineering skills are of no use to the army directly)

by mk 324 days ago  ·  link
    The problem is however, that most of the wars nowadays are between countries which are digitally separated. For example, China has its own internet. Israel is also busy to make that a reality.

I agree it's a big problem. And IMO, the ones that push hardest for control are the ones that have the most to lose by transparency. The people of the world need to work hard to keep lines of communication open between them.

by briandmyers 324 days ago  ·  link
For several years, I worked for a company which made non-lethal weapons simulation gear, for military training. Stuff like replica grenades which send a weak radio signal upon 'exploding' - if the radio receiver in your vest gets the signal, you take simulated damage. Laser transmitters that sense the firing of a blank, wait a few milliseconds for the gunpowder cloud to clear, then send a laser encoded pulse where the bullet would have gone. That sort of stuff. It was very cool tech to work on. We built gear used to keep soldiers alive, and to train the men who disarmed mine fields. I told myself I was not in the business of war, I was in the business of keeping soldiers alive. Eventually, I didn't believe myself so much any more - I WAS in the business of war (albeit less evil than most), and I found other work.
by speeding_snail 324 days ago  ·  link
Working in weapons can be quite fun. I study Electrical Engineering, so in my case it would be controllers, tracking devices or whatever they can think of and indeed, that is really cool stuff to work on. I think that is why many people don't really have problems with working there. Large budgets and cool stuff, what more could you possibly want?

But if I may ask, what made you question your line of work?

by briandmyers 323 days ago  ·  link
As I said, it was really just a realisation that I was in the war business. I'm a liberal greenie hippie-type person at heart, so the cognitive dissonance was not easy. When I had an opportunity to get a job much more to my ethical leanings, I jumped - even though the job I was jumping to was anything but secure. The new company was tiny, and likely to not survive; but so far it's been 4 years, and we have done wonders in that time. I am very proud to have played a small role in the successes we have achieved so far : www.rexbionics.com
by speeding_snail 323 days ago  ·  link
Wow, that is awesome stuff. You most certainly have a reason to be proud. Working on awesome machinery and helping people at the same time. Good luck and have fun with the further development of the rex. I think you have made the right choice if I may say so.
by khaaan 325 days ago  ·  link
There will always be war it is the natural state of more people die from Diarrhea than War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate

lets face it we are not capable of settling things like a race of beings i would call Human. there are benefits to war Medical scientific advancements have been made because of war. making weapons better more accurate decreases casualties and collateral damage. People forget the bigger picture people demand a way of life this requires resources take away cheap Oil gas electric make everything expensive and stop importing food and the people will be demanding wars.

Ill just leave this here ยป http://youtu.be/9w3E3eFMsLg

by speeding_snail 324 days ago  ·  link
You know what the problem is? War is intentional. If the defence budgets weren't so high and more money were to go towards medicine for example, we could reduce both the casualties in war and the number of people who die as a result of disease. Mankind would be better of as a whole. But it seems that reason will never win from emotion or schemes by a dangerous few.

People indeed demand a certain standard of living, but I think with the recent crises, the west is learning that even their standard of living is not a given. They will have to work for it. I hear people complain that they can't buy the latest gadgets. They need a new phone, because theirs is already a year old. We can do a lot to change this. People just need to be eased into the thought that they don't have the right to a cheap new phone. They want a complete computer in their pocket? You'll have to pay. You want cheap petrol? Not possible, fund an electric car. Oh, electricity is also expensive? Go and create cheap sustainable energy sources. The problem is solvable, now go and fix it.

Sorry for the long ramblings, but I remain hopeful that one day, the problems will be fixed and war is no longer necessary, since there is always another way to fix the problem. As for religious wars, those idiots just need to learn that religion is not important enough to start a war over.



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