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95% chance there is no Higgs.

by mk · #physics
posted 626 days ago · shared by: 27
Ok, I am going to have to say that I called it: http://hubski.com/pub?id=2542 :)

My bet is that gravity is a perspective experienced existing within a quantum condensate. That is, gravitational information is instantanous. There are no gravitational waves, and there is no transmitting particle. I think gravity is more likely the opposite of entropy.

I'm (slowly) espousing my crazy theory on it.

http://hubski.com/pub?id=837 http://hubski.com/pub?id=1053

I'll update that soon.



by Quatters 625 days ago  ·  link
As someone with low level of comprehension about quantum physics, I must ask a question: does this mean that we still do not know what gives particles mass? If so, what are the implications for modern science if the Boson doesn't exist?
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by mk 625 days ago  ·  link
Well, other bosons do exist, maybe just not the Higgs. And I think that the answer to your question is yes. If the Higgs is not found, other theories are going to have to be more seriously entertained.

It's humbling, that for all we do know, we still haven't figured out what gravity is all about. :)

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by woot 620 days ago  ·  link
Is it possible that Gravity is merely a residual force from either before or during the big bang?
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by mk 620 days ago  ·  link
:) I think everything is, right?

But, maybe you are saying: Does it reflect a very early condition of the universe? -No idea.

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by woot 613 days ago  ·  link
In a way, yes.

Is it possible that Gravity was indeed the strongest force before the big-bang, and is now the weakest force which had continued to degrade?

After all to keep this tremendous amount of matter together would require a tremendous amount of energy.

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by mk 613 days ago  ·  link
Yes, I don't see why it couldn't have evolved, -it might be conditional. That could possibly explain the discrepancies that dark matter is supposed to. Looking out could be looking back on a universe under a different gravitational influence.
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by Quatters 625 days ago  ·  link
I thought the premise behind the Higgs was that it was part of a process that gave a particle it's mass, therefore being instrumental in the way the universe operates. I guess it's all a bit uncertain, shall we say?
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by mk 624 days ago  ·  link
True. But mass and gravitation are proportional. It would be very surprising if they weren't intimately related. The idea was that the Higgs created a field that defined this relationship/these characteristics. I agree it's very uncertain. :) pretty exciting, I think.
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by thenewgreen 626 days ago  ·  link
Guess we know how Peter Higgs will feel: http://hubski.com/pub?id=2516
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by dombofix 625 days ago  ·  link
So does this mean that they essentially used 10 Billion dollars to find out they were all wrong?
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by mk 625 days ago  ·  link
No. First of all, it will prove many people wrong, not all. -Like Steven Hawkings. :)

But secondly, the LHC will be used for other things too. The Higgs question was a big one though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider#Purpose

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by cW 622 days ago  ·  link
I hear that the LHC also makes _amaaaazing_ smoothies ... but that they are very small.

This is a really fascinating development, but I'm sticking with "turtles all the way down." Actually, I'm looking forward to digging into your theory of gravity vs. entropy (finally, an epic confrontation!), to the extent that a scientifically challenged person such as myself can.

Also, it's sad the Higg's is running out of places to hide. If anybody sees him, tell him he can come by and stay at my place.

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by mk 621 days ago  ·  link
Sounds good cW! You are on!
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