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by kuli · #hubskibookclub
posted 350 days ago · shared by: 12
First book (chosen by kuli) to be Jamrach's Menagerie by Carol Birch

Target end date: last week of July

I'm starting it tonight, look forward to sharing with you



by kuli 293 days ago  ·  link
briandmyers, mk, b_b, sounds_sound, winston, JakobVirgil, AnSionnachRua, lessismore, caio, thenewgreen, insomniasexx

It's August---anybody else finish the book and have thoughts? Did you like it? Are you still interested in the book club? Who is going to pick next?

by insomniasexx 293 days ago  ·  link
I really liked the beginning. I highlighted a few passages (my kindle is at home) especially the way Birch describes the animals. The writing is interesting but the story itself isn't. I loved how Birch was saying the things she was saying...but I didn't feel compelled to read the stuff in between the passages of brilliant language. That "stuff" was filler to me, even though it was the plot. Oh well. I only made it halfway through. I assumed it was because between work, a new man, and summertime but reading these comments I guess we are all in the same boat.

I propose SciFi next. I'm still in my singularity/scifi mode from 99 days ago: http://hubski.com/pub?id=27349

I took b_b's advice and read The Man in the High Castle. Something along those lines.

by b_b 293 days ago  ·  link
Did you like it?
by insomniasexx 293 days ago  ·  link
I loved it. I want to read it again in a year or so. It has so many layers, I think I missed a lot of it the first time around.
by b_b 293 days ago  ·  link
I'm glad. You always feel bad when you love something and recommend it, and the person hates it. Its hard not to take it personal. The good thing is that its short enough you can read it several times and not feel like you're wasting time. One thing I think that Dick was really good at presaging is the merger of corporatism with government. Obviously this was happening when he was writing, but its gotten out of hand in the last 30 years. He--and a lot of other SciFi writers, I suppose--saw this coming and tried to warn everyone. Sucks for us that we didn't listen.
by caio 293 days ago  ·  link
Hey, I read that one! It was some time ago and I didn't quite understand it much. I'm guessing, from my other FKD readings -- 'The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch' and 'Ubik' -- that it was about their reality fusing with ours? Something like that?

I remember enjoyed mainly the geopolitics of the book.

by winston 293 days ago  ·  link
I read the book and agree with what seems to be the general consensus; it was good but a bit void of character development.
by thenewgreen 293 days ago  ·  link
I read to the point when they reach the Islands in search of the Dragon. I think I'll actually have a chance to finish it tonight. So far, I enjoy the language of the book but I agree with AnSionnachRua that it isn't exactly captivating. I recall you (kuli) having a conversation here about how the characters weren't that captivating and that you didn't have an emotional connection with them. So far, I would agree with this. From my perspective thus far, Tim is the most interesting character and this is only because he is such a little shit. Dan Rymer is starting to become more interesting as a character too. Still, I'm not terribly motivated to continue. I'll see how much I can knock out tonight.
by AnSionnachRua 293 days ago  ·  link
I feel bad about it, but I didn't actually finish the book. I got six or seven chapters in and stopped because, frankly, it didn't really hold my interest. I ended up reading American Gods by Neil Gaiman instead...

I just couldn't get into it. There was a great amount of focus on the Victorian England setting and, to be honest, I started to get tired of it - that and the plot just didn't seem to be moving anywhere. But I can't speak much about it because I only read about a quarter of the book.

Sorry! I'll read the next one even if I don't like it.

by kuli 293 days ago  ·  link
That's ok! Since I chose it, I consider it partly my fault :)

After reading it, I was a bit surprised that it was a Booker finalist (as I have partly eluded to before)---it wasn't great by any stretch of the imagination, but it wasn't bad either. I read the other book I proposed---In a Strange Room, which was better and would have offered more to discuss. Oh well!

Did you like American Gods?

by AnSionnachRua 293 days ago  ·  link
Oh don't worry; you're not at fault for picking a book I might dislike.

I still haven't finished it (not putting aside enough time for fiction lately) but I really like it so far. I like the feel of having a totally normal guy in the normal world but with supernatural beings and strange events happening around him - it kind of reminds me of some of Haruki Murakami's writing.

by caio 293 days ago  ·  link
Oh, man! Thank you! I was feeling so bad! As you, I got 'till chapter 6, but my attention was winding down. When they said they were going to find a dragon, it went up again, but reading in the desktop, in my not-so-legal copy, was so tiresome that I gave up.

Pity. I was making some annotations. I made a little dramatis personae, and a few connections with other works -- anyone think of the The Tyger poem when Jaffy mentioned his encounter with the feline beast?

FWIW, I'm reading Dracula now. I found a dramatic reading of it on LibriVox.

by lessismore 293 days ago  ·  link
I got totally caught up in a project that I did not even have a chance to read the book. My supposed month away ended up being a month in front on the computer working. :)
by mk 293 days ago  ·  link
Similar scenario here. Our 4 mo is putting us through the paces. She's not a very good napper. :/ I'm doing my best to finish the book I started before she was born.

I do want to get in on this though. I love discussing books.

by caio 293 days ago  ·  link
Is that 'the gathering storm'? I remember you talking about it. How's that going?
by thenewgreen 350 days ago  ·  link
FYI, per briandmyers good suggestion, moving forward the Hubski book club will be tagged as, you guessed it #hubskibookclub. Thanks for starting this Kuli, I look forward to reading Jamrach's Menargerie and discussing it with you all. I'm going to "shout out" to those that expressed interest in joining in, just so you are kept in the loop: mk, b_b, sounds_sound, winston, JakobVirgil, AnSionnachRua, lessismore, and caio.

Happy reading and thanks again for doing this kuli.

by JakobVirgil 349 days ago  ·  link
I have secured my copy by shoplifting (or at the library depending on who you ask).
by sounds_sound 349 days ago  ·  link
There are 4 holds on 7 copies at my central branch. To wait or not to wait? I think I should just buy it. That way I can give it to a friend when I'm done...
by JakobVirgil 348 days ago  ·  link
my county doesn't seem to be as clever as yours (3 copies no holds) or maybe they have all read it already.
by insomniasexx 350 days ago  ·  link
I just dl'd it for my kindle. No hockey game/drinks tonight so I might actually start it if I leave here at a reasonable hour.
by briandmyers 343 days ago  ·  link
So far, I like it. It has a great opening line :

"I was born twice. First in a wooden room that jutted out over the black water of the Thames, and then again eight years later in the Highway, when the tiger took me in his mouth and everything truly began."

by kuli 343 days ago  ·  link
I just finished it last night---I know way ahead of schedule, but that must say something great about the rest of the book, right? I really enjoyed her writing, it was fun and imaginative...looking forward to what you think of the rest.
by mk 350 days ago  ·  link
Ok, I'll grab it.
by JakobVirgil 335 days ago  ·  link
I finished about a week ago. I liked it quite a bit.
by kuli 309 days ago  ·  link
briandmyers, mk, b_b, sounds_sound, winston, JakobVirgil, AnSionnachRua, lessismore, and caio, thenewgreen

I hope everyone has or is enjoying the book. I know JakobVirgil finished it and liked it, anyone else any thoughts???

I enjoyed it quite a bit too, it was just what I anticipated---a good summer adventure. Look forward to hearing what everyone else thinks.

by b_b 309 days ago  ·  link
Didn't forget, just not done. I'll chime in by the end of the week.
by winston 306 days ago  ·  link
I really enjoyed the read. Look forward to hearing everyones thoughts
by sounds_sound 309 days ago  ·  link
Almost finished here.
by caio 309 days ago  ·  link
Slow reader here. I probably won't finish it this week, so next week I'll post some of my thoughts on it.

It's a fun read.

by briandmyers 309 days ago  ·  link
I'd say it was a very good read, but not great. I enjoyed it quite a lot, and it packs a huge emotional punch (trying to avoid spoilers here), but I was left a little bit dissatisfied at the slight lack of character development. The protagonist goes through hell and back, and I guess I was just hoping for more in how the events changed him, and more depth to Jaff's relationship with Tim. I did really appreciate the dispassionate way the author describes the most horrific scenes - that had the effect (to me) of realism, as the characters were, by that point, beyond the 'luxury' of normal human outrage at the circumstances.
by kuli 309 days ago  ·  link
I agree totally. In fact, I was trying to figure exactly how to articulate what my disappointments were and you did it so precisely. I do agree that I think the character development could have been much better, which would have made the story more satisfying. Although I must admit I was very moved at times, I wasn't really impacted at the end of the book or its characters (although I feel a certain fondness for them).
by briandmyers 309 days ago  ·  link
I agree, I felt the same way you did about the ending. In some ways it seemed unfinished or incomplete - for example, I felt like there should have been more done with whats-his-name, the oddball guy who was drawing the dragon (and somewhat blamed for their misfortune).
by thenewgreen 309 days ago  ·  link
Shout out! insomniasexx
by insomniasexx 309 days ago  ·  link
I'm halfway through. I have a new man in my life so...yeah....not so much reading this past week. I'll get it done though.
by thenewgreen 308 days ago  ·  link
Congrats on the fella! I'm guessing a prerequisite for an insom boyfriend is literacy???
by insomniasexx 308 days ago  ·  link
Hard worker, has his own money, loves to party, loves sex, and yes, knowing how to read. Also someone who doesn't smoke cigs cuz I'm going to quit.
by thenewgreen 308 days ago  ·  link
    someone who doesn't smoke cigs cuz I'm going to quit.
That is awesome insom! Good luck with that, it's really difficult but once the smoke clears, it get's much easier.

like that pun?

by thenewgreen 309 days ago  ·  link
I have a long flight ahead of me and I plan on starting it then. I look forward to it!


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